讨论一下，上学所要的 CSP、HECS-HELP、FEE-HELP 到底什么关系

powermao

要上学的朋友，最关心的是自己能不能尽量少的交学费，那么就会查找一些相关信息，马上就会发现几个概念，分别是：

CSP、HECS-HELP、FEE-HELP

那么，他们到底是什么呢？有什么区别呢，我们研究研究，我也不是专家，只是一点一点找到点资料以及道听途说而来的，呵呵。
希望大家能一起讨论讨论，看还有什么补充和改正。

powermao

基本上，所有的学校都会有这3个概念，undergraduate和postgraduate都会有，只有一个要说明的，申请课程的时候，如果想要 CSP ，一定要看这个课程是否支持 CSP ，并不是全支持的。
比如看这个专业，很大的字写着支持：http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/3189/

那么，CSP是什么？
Commonwealth Supported Places

是不是什么人都能申请呢？
不是的，条件很苛刻，名额非常有限。

那么，是不是一定要澳大利亚的公民citizen才能申请呢？
好像不是，PR就可以申请，这是最关键的。

Applicants who meet one or more of the following criteria are encouraged to apply:
·Holders of a current Pensioner Concession Card or Health Care Card
·Indigenous Australians
·People with a disability or long-term medical condition
·Women applying for programs in non-traditional areas (Engineering and Applied Science)
·People retraining or upgrading qualifications after a retrenchment or a period of unemployment or precarious employment (such as part-·time, on-call, casual, temporary, self-employed and contract jobs or in an industry undergoing restructure)
·People retraining or upgrading qualifications after a period of child rearing or family responsibilities
·People with a low socioeconomic status, as defined by the Centrelink Low Income Test
·Recent migrants on a low income, as defined by the Centrelink Low Income Test

简单说，正常人，申请CSP的前2年，年收入少于6000澳币，就可以申请，尽早申请。

Centrelink Low Income Test 在哪里？
http://www.centrelink.gov.au/int ... iat.htm#income_bank

那么，这个CSP到底有什么好处呢？
首先的，是大把的学费减免，来看2008年的：
Commonwealth Supported Places (CSP)
A CSP is jointly funded by the Commonwealth Government and student. The amount to be paid by the student is defined by discipline 'bands'. In 2008, the following student contribution rates for a standard, annual, full-time load apply:

National Priority: $0 – $4,077—Education and Nursing.
Band 1: $0 – $5,095—Humanities, Behavioural Sciences, Social Studies, Foreign Languages, Visual and Performing Arts.
Band 2: $0 – $7,260—Mathematics, Statistics, Computing, Built Environment, Health, Engineering, Science, Surveying, and Agriculture.
Band 3: $0 – $8,499—Accounting, Administration, Economics, Commerce, Law, Dentistry, Medicine, and Veterinary Science.

Students who undertake more or less than a full-time study load, or who study courses from a combination of the above categories will be charged the proportionate student contribution.

明白了吧，比如学会计，一年只要up to $8499就可以了，不用交2万多的学费了～～

[ 本帖最后由 powermao 于 2008-2-1 21:16 编辑 ]

powermao

那么，CSP是怎么由来的呢，以前都没有这个概念的，好，看下面：

From 1 January 2005 the Higher Education Support Act 2003 came into effect to replace the Higher Education Funding Act 1988. As a consequence Commonwealth Supported Places (CSP) have replaced the Higher Education Contribution Scheme (HECS). A summary of the change in terminology is as follows:

Commonwealth Supported Places (CSP) replaces HECS Places,
Student Contribution Amount (SCA) replaces HECS fees,
Contribution Bands replaces HECS Contribution Bands,
HECS-HELP replaces deferred HECS, and
Commonwealth Assistance Notice (CAN) replaces the HECS Liability Notice.

那么，原来的HECS和CSP有什么区别呢？

Main differences between CSP and HECS
The main differences between CSP and HECS are:

Universities may set their own Student Contribution Amount (SCA) within ranges set by the government (only applicable to those who have not been assessed as a "pre-2005" student).
The upfront discount for payments to the University (over $500) has decreased from 25% to 20% (applicable to all students).
The discount for a voluntary repayment to the Australian Taxation Office (over $500) has decreased from 15% to 10% (applicable to all students).  
Permanent Resident Visa Holders cannot choose their payment option and must pay upfront without the discount (only applicable to those who have not been assessed as a "pre-2005" student).
The full-time annual contribution for each band is available at the Fees Unit web site.

Part-time students will pay a pro-rata amount based on their study load (ie. EFTSL) and the contribution band/s of their units.

The SCA is calculated each semester on the census date. If you remain enrolled in a unit after the census date, you will incur an SCA liability regardless of whether or not you attended that unit. To avoid this liability, you must complete an 'Enrolment Amendment' form and discontinue the unit by the census date.

powermao

那么，现在的HECS-HELP和原来的HECS一样么？
看上面，不一样的，HECS-HELP 和 CSP 联合取代了原来的 HECS。所以，CSP 和 HECS-HELP是放在一起，就是说，申请的条件基本一样。

那么CSP和 HECS-HELP最大，我们最关心的区别在哪里？
CSP，PR就可以申请。
HECS-HELP 一定要澳洲公民或难民才可以申请

那么，HECS-HELP到底是什么呢？

HECS-HELP is a loan available to eligible students enrolled in Commonwealth supported places. A HECS-HELP loan will cover all or part of the student contribution amount.

If you receive a HECS-HELP loan, the Australian Government pays the loan amount directly to your higher education provider (provider) on your behalf. A HECS-HELP debt is recorded for you with the Tax Office against your Tax File Number.

HECS-HELP 通过什么形式呢？

There are two types of HECS-HELP assistance available to eligible Commonwealth supported students. If you are eligible, you may access both the HECS-HELP loan and the discount to pay your student contribution.
The following table describes the types of HECS-HELP assistance.
1.HECS-HELP loan
A loan for your student contribution, where:
·the Australian Government pays part or all of your student contribution to your provider on your behalf
·a HECS-HELP debt is recorded for you with the Tax Office
·you start repaying your HELP debt when your repayment income is above the minimum threshold for compulsory repayment.

2.HECS-HELP discount   
A discount on your student contribution payment amount where:
·you pay all, or at least $500, of your student contribution amount up-front
·receive a 20% discount on the amount paid up-front.

简单说，只要你肯先付500以上，那么就可以得到总学费的20％减免，还是不少的啊～～

powermao

前2个说完了，第三个 FEE-HELP 是什么？
FEE-HELP is a loan given to eligible fee-paying students to help pay part or all of their tuition fees.
From 1 January 2005 FEE-HELP replaced the previous schemes PELS and BOTPLS.
简单说，就是全额学费贷款。

FEE-HELP 什么人可以申请呢？
澳洲公民或难民
Australian citizens or holders of an Australian permanent Humanitarian visa.  Holders of other permanent visas which are not classified as Humanitarian may only access FEE-HELP if:
·they qualify under the transitional arrangements for pre-2005 PELS or
·they are undertaking a bridging course for overseas trained professionals.

能申请多少呢？
你课程的全部或部分学费，最大8万澳元，研究生段可以100％，本科段最大80％。
FEE-HELP limit
You can borrow up to the amount of the tuition fee being charged by your provider for your unit of study. However, over your lifetime you can borrow only up to the FEE-HELP limit. In 2007, the FEE-HELP limit is $80,000, and $100,000 for students studying dentistry, medicine or veterinary science. This amount is indexed each year.
A loan fee of 20% applies to FEE-HELP loans for undergraduate courses of study. The FEE-HELP limit does not include the loan fee. No loan fee applies to FEE-HELP loans for postgraduate courses, bridging courses for overseas-trained professionals, enabling courses or units of study undertaken directly with Open Universities Australia  (formerly OLA).
The Australian Government pays the amount of the loan directly to the student’s provider.
Students repay their loan through the tax system once their income is above the minimum threshold for compulsory repayment.


就是说白了，HELP就是LOAN，换了个名词而已，都是贷款，一个是给符合CSP条件困难学生的贷款，一个是正常的全额贷款，都是无息贷款。

那么，真的是无息贷款么？
不是的，没有利息，但是要乘以通货膨胀率，直接一点说，就是和国家的GDP增长率差不多，外行人叫货币增值率，呵呵。

powermao

那么，做为贷款，就是债务，就是要还的，对么？
是的。
HELP debts
If you obtain a HELP loan from the Australian Government to pay for your studies, then a HELP debt is recorded for you with the Tax Office. You will repay your HELP debt by making:
·compulsory repayments through the tax system when your HELP repayment income is above the minimum repayment threshold; and / or
·voluntary repayments directly to the Tax Office.

具体怎么规定的？
Compulsory repayments are made when you lodge your tax return and your HELP repayment income is above the minimum threshold, $39,824 in 2007-08.
The compulsory repayment amount depends on your HELP repayment income for each income year.
Example: A person with a HELP repayment income of $40,000 in 2007-08 will make a repayment equivalent to 4% of their income, or $1600.

HELP repayment income is:
·your taxable income for an income year, plus
·any amount your taxable income had been reduced by a net rental loss, plus
·your total reportable fringe benefits amounts shown on your pay as you go (PAYG) payment summary, plus
·any exempt foreign employment income.

那么详细的比率是多少？

The following table gives the repayment rates for the 2007-08 income year.
Below $39,825   ＝  Nil
$39,825-$44,360  ＝ 4.0%
$44,361-$48,896   ＝ 4.5%
$48,897-$51,466   ＝ 5.0%
$51,467-$55,322  ＝  5.5%
$55,323-$59,915  ＝  6.0%
$59,916-$63,068  ＝  6.5%
$63,069-$69,405   ＝  7.0%
$69,406-$73,959   ＝  7.5%
$73,960 and above  ＝  8.0%

那是不是每年都在变呢？
没错。

那每年变了，看哪里？
网站，http://www.goingtouni.gov.au/
http://www.goingtouni.gov.au/Mai ... lsory-Voluntary.htm

powermao

最后一个问题，我符合全部的要求，这些可以同时申请么？
答案是肯定的。

哦，你知道这么多啊？哪找的呢？
1.听朋友说的
2.找遍所有大学的网站，Mel uni，monash， rmit，deakin……
3.网站： http://www.goingtouni.gov.au   以及   http://www.centrelink.gov.au  当然，还有我们的足迹！

你找这么多地方，累不累啊？
你说呢？英文看的偶头大了3圈。
还等什么，给加几个分吧～～

你真是闲的，找这个做什么？
偶自己用的上，嘿嘿～～

还有其他要补充的么？
有，除了学费上的减免以外，现在还可以申请政府的福利：
·Youth Allowance
·Austudy
·Pensioner Education Supplement
详细看贴：
http://www.austeps.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=84549

全说完了么？那就记下了，暂时用不上～～
  
那就加分好了！！

嗯，还是有点用的，但是，还是看不明白啊？


大家继续研究探讨吧！
是啊，是啊！！  

powermao

预留
整理过的补充信息

lorrycan

LZ很厚道，顶一个

xingbu

谢谢lz分享. 这些对来了两年后的tx想要继续读书的非常有帮助.

xingbu

已加精. 最好申请过以上这些的TX再来分享下实际经验就好了

麦嘟

谢谢能猫:)

leski

if CSP stands for "Commonwealth Supported Equity Places", then only 澳大利亚的公民citizen才能申请.

I was rejected by Commonwealth Supported Equity Places.

leski

you mess up.

首先的，是大把的学费减免，来看2008年的：
Commonwealth Supported Places (CSP)   

Commonwealth Supported Equity Places

every one can apply for Commonwealth Supported Places.

powermao

没看明白LS想说什么？
说你英文好？呵呵～～
"Equity" 问题很大么？听你解释解释，这个偶倒是不知道。

leski

晕死。

如果是equity的话，是只能公民申请的，但是如果只是Commonwealth Supported Places基本上是人人都能申请的。PR可以的。

你说的学费减免，就是指的Commonwealth Supported Places。如果是euity的话，是不用交学费的，而且有生活补助。

tiger

拜猫哥，以后你的每一贴我都要进来拜一下！

猫哥打算读什么，我今年也想在RMIT读个PT的物流！有空交流一下哈

CSP你申请到了么？

lisacai

正好在找这些资料呢,谢谢

courier

请问能猫什么时候写的这个文章?

ue

感谢分享，很有用。PR只能申请csp了是不是？

chenfengt

http://www.austeps.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=84549
这个链接不能用了。能更新一下吗？

awinsun

如果是pr，申请csp，就一定可以成功吗？还是成功率也很低？

myplaxis

怎么PR申请CSP，还要看收入呀？是看申请人的收入还是家庭收入啊？

高密公主

不对吧？不记得还要查收入啊

zn7726

将这个帖子顶起, 想问问大家有没有成功申请到CSP的(学费减免).

LD打算读个Master, 在UTS的课程费用里面看到这个东西, eligible的学生学费只要10XX刀, 比full fee paying的fee少了好多呀.
LD的情况是:
1. 08年从TR换成PR的, 从TR起到现在在澳洲居住超过2年
2. LD来澳洲后每年收入都很少, 一直在读AMES和TAFE. 去年开始做parttime工, 上个财年税前收入大概1000-2000刀.

有什么建议吗, 谢谢.

zn7726

自己的问题自己顶

catparrot

好帖子

ONeal

好贴好人

goo

thanks for sharing ！

Watermaple

感谢分享！正考虑再读个什么呢