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[ACT] Shorten: Australian First - 工党把457工人当作种族主义的替罪羊 [复制链接]

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Labor’s attack on 457 workers is racist scapegoating

美国竞选川普获胜后,比尔肖顿加大了对457签证的攻击。

在得出排外主义(xenophobia)是在工人中赢得支持的关键的结论之后,肖顿宣布:“我们不会像美国民主党那样失去蓝领工人的投票。”

肖顿把失业归罪于移民工人,宣称从海外来的工人正在“抢走护士,气修工,木匠,电工的工作”。

用川普会说出的语言,肖顿宣称,“我们将买澳洲(货),制造澳洲(产品),在澳洲制造和雇佣澳洲公民”。(“We will buy Australian, build Australian, make in Australia and employ Australians”)。

Shorten, ever the opportunist, is mimicking Trump’s jingoistic and ethnic-nationalist “America First” motto. “We will buy Australian, build Australian, make in Australia and employ Australians,” he says.

Following Trump’s surprise election victory, Shorten was eager to distance Labor from Hillary Clinton. “My party will heed the lessons of Detroit, Michigan, of Ohio and Pennsylvania. We’re not going to lose our blue-collar voters like the Democrats did,” he said.


工党和绿党都动议修正谭宝的设计来使建筑工业更难雇佣457签证工人的ABCC立法。绿党公开宣称这是一个试图确定种族主义者汉森是否认真的想抑制海外工人的尝试。

这是一把刺向这个有着大量移民人口的工会心脏的尖刀。

如果本地工人认为是移民偷走了工作,压低了薪水,这会使我们相互敌视,分裂工人阶层。

这里并没有一个明确的分界来划分临时和永久移民。根据最晚的统计,这里只有 94,890 永久457签证工人,但每年有190,000个永久移民来到澳洲。很多零时签证工人将会永远留在这里,据统计未来的几年里70%的永久移民是从零时移民转化的。

老板们确实在试图压榨移民工人,用可怜的薪水和条件雇佣他们。解决这个问题的方法应该是把他们组织进工会,要求更好的待遇,而不是发起反对他们来这里的运动。

移民工人不应该为失业和工作机会削减负责。力拓矿业集团刚刚宣布在西澳削减了500个工作岗位。这是受对利润的渴望驱动的。贪婪的老板和政府才是真正应该对失业负责的人。



图为457建筑工人在堪培拉罢工,大家可以看到基本都是亚裔。


再来看看这篇新闻,幕后黑手是谁?
华人地产商建筑工地出现种族歧视大字报


在这里我总结一下我个人对这件事的看法。

其实小短要stop 457就stop吧,虽然我觉得457对澳洲失业率影响不大,457职位也是包括在澳洲职位数量里的。如果禁止457,某些老板觉得无利可图搞不好就关门大吉了,澳洲职位数量反而会减少,于是进入恶性循环,经济会更加不景气。

如果你觉得你自己入了澳籍,你自己方方面面就都是Australian了的话,我只能说你内心很强大,头脑很单纯。你应该去和极右翼党Australia First Party去讨论一下,问问亚洲人(不论是入了籍也好PR也好)算不算Australian。Australia First Party甚至都已经嘲笑了小短,说他剽窃了他们的党派名称。

先不管小短话里的Australian包不包含PR吧,在某些人(比如工会主力的红脖子Bogan)眼里,你这一身黄皮就是Asian, Chinese的标志,不管你是入了籍也好还是PR也好。不管法律规定PR有哪些权利,排外主义被工会工党煽动起来了,你以为那些工会主力红脖子bogan分得清你是澳洲公民还是PR还是临时签证?你这一身黄皮入了澳籍也洗不白,不管你干的什么工作,在bogan眼里你就是个抢他们工作的Chinese,分分钟指着鼻子骂你滚回中国去。 如果你觉得有法律规定就万事大吉了,那你还担心一国党,Australia First Party这些极右翼党干什么?你大可以和那些骂你Chinese的种族分子解释我入籍了我是Australian我不是Chinese啊。

“We will buy Australian, build Australian, make in Australia and employ Australians”,“It is time to build Australian first, to buy Australian first in our contracts and to employ Australian first. ” 优先买澳洲产品,不就是要抵制进口商品么?当“优先购买国货”表现为一国政府法规的时候,那就毫无疑问地属于贸易保护主义范畴。因为,这是一种政府行为,在当今的多边国际贸易体制下,政府行为必须遵循世界贸易组织(WTO)的有关原则,必须满足最惠国待遇和国民待遇的基本原则要求。小短的发言说明工党将推行这种贸易保护主义的政策。这也是一种排外主义。

小短的发言里还包含了一句话。“My approach for standing up for Australian jobs is inspired by 125 years of Labor Party tradition. ”工党125年的传统,呵呵,是不是也包含了工党的白澳政策啊?当时也是许多澳大利亚人埋怨中国人的到來引致工資水平下降,遂连续发生了许多起排华暴乱。1901年9月工会和它操持的工党通过了白澳政策。现在工会也是抱怨外来457签证抢了Australian的饭碗,这理由何其相似。

我这里再举一个经常被某些ID拿来使用证明歧视的例子,澳洲职场的隐性歧视。调查显示听起来像外国名字的求职者比用白人名字的求职者更难找到工作。
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/artic ... ding%E2%80%99-names
如果Australian First真正成为一个政策执行了,可以想象这种明里暗里的歧视会更加严重,因为不论你如何西化,你永远不可能比白人更“Australian”。如果某天你老板为了保障一个真“Australian”的职位,叫你打包回家时,你就和他根据法律据理力争吧,我已经入籍了,我也是Australian啊!

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澳洲的labour工资太高,只能从国外雇佣廉价劳动力了
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图为457建筑工人在堪培拉罢工,大家可以看到基本都是亚裔。

再来看看这篇新闻,幕后黑手是谁?
华人地产商建筑工地出现种族歧视大字报


喜欢右翼媒体的可以看这个

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/ ... 34651bf1ab42e1672e7

Bill Shorten is peddling his own version of Trump lite



Bill Shorten may have described Donald Trump as “barking mad” but that has not stopped him from adopting the US president-elect’s populist, nativist and protectionist rhetoric. The real worry, however, is that Shorten actually believes it.

Shorten, ever the opportunist, is mimicking Trump’s jingoistic and ethnic-nationalist “America First” motto. “We will buy Australian, build Australian, make in Australia and employ Australians,” he says.


This is not a dog whistle; it is a trumpet. If you fear imported goods, if you worry about the decline of manufacturing, if you are concerned about immigrant workers, then Shorten is, apparently, the man to save you.

Shorten is selling false hope. He can’t roll back the tide of globalisation, technology and trade. While Trump promises a wall to stop immigrants, Shorten wants to reconstruct the tariff wall. They are both peddling the same cheap hucksterism on trade and immigration.

Labor is propagating an anti-globalisation message. Shorten promises workers buffeted by economic change that he will be “running the ruler” over future trade deals in line with his “aggressive Australia first” approach.

In truth, lowering trade barriers drives growth, jobs and investment. It has made industry more competitive, efficient and productive. Consumers benefit from cheaper and often higher quality goods. Billions of people have been lifted out of poverty worldwide. But you do not often hear these arguments prosecuted by Labor or the unions today.

Jason Clare, the opposition trade spokesman, offers a more considered view than Shorten. He recognises voter concern about trade deals, fuelled by stagnant wages and job insecurity. But he emphasises that overall tariff cuts have “created new businesses and new jobs” and “increased wages and economic growth”.

Shorten has seized on foreign skilled workers on 457 visas to capitalise on fears about squeezed job markets and falling living standards. He rails against “cheap labour” from overseas being used to drive down wages and “rogue companies” exploiting workers. Yet there are only 95,757 workers on primary 457 visas.

Indeed, temporary work visas are at their lowest level since 2009-10, and they are falling. In the past financial year, just 45,400 visas were granted.

More than 70 per cent are actually highly educated professionals working in areas such as information technology, where there is a skill shortage.

The 457 visas reached their peak during the previous Labor government, when Shorten was employment minister — 68,481 visas were granted in 2012-13. Yet the Coalition spooked by its own backbench populists, will place further restrictions on skilled migrant visas. Labor, having ceded policy to the unions, wants further changes.

Unions have long railed against 457 visas as a fig leaf for their own falling memberships and loss of blue-collar jobs. But several unions, including the Transport Workers Union, United Voice and the Australian Workers Union, have employed staff on 457 visas.

Julia Gillard’s former chief spin-doctor, John McTernan, was employed on a 457 visa. Hypocrisy abounds.

Shorten has often bowed to unions and embraced protectionism and nativism. He told workers in Adelaide he didn’t want Japanese-built submarines while citing World War II. He campaigned against the China free trade agreement. And he has often spoken of “Aussie jobs”. Shorten’s rhetoric and policies are not only a departure from modern Labor orthodoxy — indeed they belong in a pre-Whitlam era of xenophobia, nationalism and protectionism — but they also represent a retreat from mainstream policy. This is the political low road, where Shorten is seen all too often.

Following Trump’s surprise election victory, Shorten was eager to distance Labor from Hillary Clinton. “My party will heed the lessons of Detroit, Michigan, of Ohio and Pennsylvania. We’re not going to lose our blue-collar voters like the Democrats did,” he said.

This is a misreading of the election result. The US does not have compulsory voting, which often leads to political polarisation and low voter turnout. Comparisons with Australia are fraught with difficulty. We are a much more cohesive society, with a stronger economy and less inequality and class division.

While Trump’s victory was extraordinary, the US remains divided and he did not win an overwhelming endorsement. Clinton won the popular vote by a margin of more than 1.3 million voters. Trump won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan by the smallest of margins. If Trump won Florida but lost these three states, he would not be president.

While the working class did shift towards Trump, most (51-42 per cent) workers earning under $US50,000 ($68,000) voted for Clinton. So did those earning under $US30,000 (53-41 per cent). Exit polls showed Clinton won a majority of black (88-8 per cent) and Hispanic/Latino (65-29 per cent) voters, many of whom were in low-paid jobs or unemployed.

Trump’s minority-vote victory was more due to cultural factors than economic ones — a point made by Barack Obama in an interview with David Remnick in The New Yorker. He was the “change” candidate at a “change” election. Trump cleverly appealed to outsiders, those viscerally anti-establishment, whereas Clinton personified the insider establishment class.

The far-Right has celebrated Trump’s victory. Pauline Hanson, like Trump, relies on fearmongering and simplistic solutions. Hanson has accused Shorten of pinching her policies on 457 visas. “Labor is now taking its cues from Pauline Hanson’s One Nation,” she tweeted. This is hardly a good look for Shorten.

Trumponomics is not all that far removed from the socialism of Bernie Sanders, who has devotees here such as Wayne Swan. These big-spending, high-taxing, isolationist and nationalist policies ultimately represent a dead end for blue-collar workers. Those who preach the revival gospel of redistributive economics and a retreat from globalisation have failed to learn the lessons of history.

Labor should be focused on addressing voter disaffection, job insecurity and declining living standards. It is easy to get swept up into the populist wave sweeping the globe and fall for the failed policies of the past. Just look at Shorten, who has embraced policy reversion and become Trump-lite.
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不敢针对 MSL,只好找软柿子晦气。
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那干脆把457停了,估计老板们更郁闷了

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照片里咋全是亚裔呀?

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457成敛财工具了

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房价不涨真难。

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工党这是拆台来的,开始走保守主义路线了
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457 很多英国人来着。
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还记得100年前工会带领暴徒血洗华人淘金镇嘛

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反对457签证,远远好过说亚裔淹没的hurstville吧?这个是试图用非种族主义的政策调整来平衡蓝领工人的焦虑。并让他们不要去搞种族主义。

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Blame migrant workers for unemployment 。 Migrant worker 是什么定义?如果已经移民了那就属于当地人,也是澳洲蓝领工人的一部分了。

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博闻 发表于 2017-2-20 19:20
反对457签证,远远好过说亚裔淹没的hurstville吧?这个是试图用非种族主义的政策调整来平衡蓝领工人的焦虑 ...


我看未必。半斤八两
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工党上台前奏,压缩签证前奏。
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LittleBigPlanet 发表于 2017-2-20 17:39
工党这是拆台来的,开始走保守主义路线了

澳洲工党就是一个怪胎。

一方面为了本地工人工会的利益排外保守,反对全球化。

另一方面为了体现自己的进步性的又宣扬LGBTI权利,再生能源这些左派小清新的东西。

真说不清这工党是左是右。
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rocca2011 发表于 2017-2-20 19:46
我看未必。半斤八两




不要说457了,小短的第一粉丝博某人已经把PR排除出去了

http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... 42&pid=28362624
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博闻 发表于 2017-2-20 19:20
反对457签证,远远好过说亚裔淹没的hurstville吧?这个是试图用非种族主义的政策调整来平衡蓝领工人的焦虑 ...


平衡蓝领工人的焦虑?457职业大多是白领工作IT 护士等等,跟蓝领工作不搭边,相反难民是低学历低技能,更容易抢了蓝领工人的工作,为什么不禁止难民?反而禁止不大可能损坏蓝领利益的457,望解答。
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Cash1800 发表于 2017-2-20 20:36
平衡蓝领工人的焦虑?457职业大多是白领工作IT 护士等等,跟蓝领工作不搭边,相反难民是低学历低技能,更 ...

难民进不了铁路工会码头工会和建筑工人工会的。所有工党系工会都有QUOTA限制。
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发表于 2017-2-20 20:44 |显示全部楼层
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Gaucho 发表于 2017-2-20 20:42
难民进不了铁路工会码头工会和建筑工人工会的。所有工党系工会都有QUOTA限制。 ...

但现在问题好多建筑工人都是中东人了,实际上是中东难民抢占了白人蓝领的工作,跟亚裔无关。

发表于 2017-2-20 20:58 |显示全部楼层
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工党政府时候弄457很容易,现在很难。
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发表于 2017-2-20 21:22 |显示全部楼层
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工党反457拿外劳开刀,自由党和一国党勾搭,寒森气焰嚣张,澳洲向右转已经不可逆转。一般这种时候,两害相衡,还是工党对亚裔新移民来说靠普一点。

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发表于 2017-2-20 21:24 |显示全部楼层
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我早就说过,解决方案很简单,把457和移民脱钩,签证有效期一年,到期重新申请,严禁带家属。。。
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发表于 2017-2-20 21:48 |显示全部楼层
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大牛哥 发表于 2017-2-20 21:24
我早就说过,解决方案很简单,把457和移民脱钩,签证有效期一年,到期重新申请,严禁带家属。。。 ...


同意,应该学习欧盟的工作签证,年薪2.5W欧元(澳洲的话应该是4.5W)就能留下来工作,但是积分入PR另算,把工作签证和积分入户分离,不再挂钩
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发表于 2017-2-20 21:52 |显示全部楼层
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这新闻的网站,我居然第一次知道,我真是孤陋寡闻了

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457应该修改一下,堵上漏洞

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