Big Four的TZ请进

paleyp2000

周3要去deloitte面试，TZ们有设么建议吗？心里有点怕怕。。

蓝山老妖

I am working for Big 5...

黑山老妖

what's the fifth one?

qqyang

你是experienced staff面试还是graduate？如果是experienced staff面试，PwC Sydney2005年的方式是这样的。第一轮，是跟HR staff，一个manager+一个associate。问题主要还是针对你的communication skills和behaviour，都是经典的面试问题，lz查阅一下论坛上相关文章就好。如果lz以前就在DTT工作，那问题一般不大，公司文化上也应该就没有其他问题，就看语言是否确有问题了。

第二轮是跟business manager，应该要聊些technique问题，就是吹牛，我因为去年年底回国完婚所以错过这轮，但听朋友说就这样的。

可能还有第三轮见partner，老板嘛，基本就是把把关，基本上会给面子manager，哈哈，如果对你没有特别丑陋的印象，就welcome了，老板一个hour那么贵......

paleyp2000

sorry, at work now only can use english.
thanks, qqyang.
it's a junior accountant position. i was working in a local firm here that's why i think it would be very difficult.
i've gone through the headhunter interview.and now is with HR which would have behaviour test, experience test, technical test and corporate background test. it would be for 1 hr for the 4 tests. dont know how they would be asked.

paleyp2000

原帖由 qqyang 于 14/11/2006 11:07 发表
你是experienced staff面试还是graduate？如果是experienced staff面试，PwC Sydney2005年的方式是这样的。第一轮，是跟HR staff，一个manager+一个associate。问题主要还是针对你的communication skills和behavi ...

"经典的面试问题，lz查阅一下论坛上相关文章就好" where can i find them??

"应该要聊些technique问题，就是吹牛" what do u mean by 吹牛?? do they ask you very detailed questions about what software you are using or what program you are using at work??

qqyang

They can't test your technique, coz they don't know much about audit.   So focus on the classical behaviour test.  What they care about is your behaviour, whether you are spiritually suitable for the organisation.  Prepare some experience of team work, coaching others or be coached, confliction resolving skill, dealing with customers, challenges, what you proud of, weakness, three words about your strength, your image in your colleagues' mind, your career path expected, integrety, CA qualification problem.......can't remember more than above mentioned.  

Anyway, enjoy the process, good luck!

paleyp2000

原帖由 qqyang 于 14/11/2006 14:39 发表
They can't test your technique, coz they don't know much about audit.   So focus on the classical behaviour test.  What they care about is your behaviour, whether you are spiritually suitable for t ...

Thanks a lot for your advice. I will think about those ones you mentioned. It's been helpful talking to you.

qqyang

1. There are a lot of articles talking about the interview questions here, I am sure you can find them, or...please learn how to find them, otherwise, it is really a technical weakness for you if you want to work in Big4.

2. Since you are not working for DTT, they won't require u know much about their audit tools, just ensure you have a good knowledge about LN, Excel, Word and Powerpoint.  If you applied for their risk management team, you should know sth. about SAP, Oracle and network system.  They always ask you tell them some stories, just google some current issues online, the HR people know shit about audit and IT, so don't worry, just entertain them and make them happy with your soft skills.

qqyang

lz:

Don't just memorize what you prepared in the interview, try to perform naturally, be yourself.  Bear in mind, if you don't fit the position or the firm, even you were recruited, you would not be happy.  If you can't work happily, don't stay in Big4, you will be too sick to survive.

[ 本帖最后由 qqyang 于 2006-11-14 14:54 编辑 ]

paleyp2000

i'm applying for the position in tax. I heard it's called growth department with a mix of tax and auditing. I never did any audit stuff before. but for a junior position, i dont think they expect that much. my heathunter has already told them about me including some of my background and personality. Hopefully thats a good start.

I will find out more abt the technical side, but i'm glad that the hr ppl are not so into accounting stuff. i'm not going to fool them but i wont have as much pressure to talk to them then.

I think what i will do is try to be outstanding and let them at least rmember me.hheee.

[ 本帖最后由 paleyp2000 于 2006-11-14 14:57 编辑 ]

paleyp2000

原帖由 qqyang 于 14/11/2006 14:53 发表
lz:

Don't just memorize what you prepared in the interview, try to perform naturally, be yourself.  Bear in mind, if you don't fit the position or the firm, even you were recruited, you would no ...

I can see ur point. i guess whether I will like it I will at least have some ideas by going there for interview tomorrow and the probation later if succeed.

thanks for ur advice! :si49

qqyang

DTT's tax is very good worldwidely...

The interviewer always think they are the best, so tell them u believe they are the best, and let them believe you should be one of them, that's it.

paleyp2000

sure, every firm thinks they are the best. i dont think they would want to hire someone who is not proud of his/her own firm.

but good point, I will keep that in mind.:si39

小蜜早儿

lz working in local public practise now?

paleyp2000

原帖由 小蜜早儿 于 14/11/2006 16:41 发表
lz working in local public practise now?

Yes, in a small practise with less than 20 staff.

蓝山老妖

So....... compare with public practise, how about private practise?

xingbu

HR 面试不会有很多专业问题，通常会是PERSONALILTY 方面的多一点，这个就是个人发挥了，有时候答案对不同的HR来说效果也不同。

paleyp2000

恩，不过因为这个面试也有关于工作方面的问题，我想可能会比较着重于我的描述来看我个人的能力与性格。

paleyp2000

I went there in the morning for 8.30 interview. they asked about my resume and I explained what i've done. and then they asked me a set of behaviour questions. and some general questions eg. notice period, what are you looking at for you next employer, etc.

I called my headhunter at lunch time. she told me they called her and the interview went relatively well. so they are arranging the time for my second interview now which would be with 2 partners.....

anyway, thanks for you guys' support here.

琴儿

fighting!

面试回来有空写个感想

qqyang

直接见par，那就看你的了！可能当场给offer，parpar说你行你就行~~~

琴儿

原帖由 paleyp2000 于 2006-11-15 14:15 发表
I went there in the morning for 8.30 interview. they asked about my resume and I explained what i've done. and then they asked me a set of behaviour questions. and some general questions eg. notice ...

well done

晕， 你发的后感比我的要求还要早

paleyp2000

hehe,,, to 琴儿, I will write more later. Hows ur job hunting?
qqyang, yeah, that's what the headhunter told me they would decide whether to hire me..... another round ......

琴儿

hehe...我现在正在痛苦的挣扎中 :si133  左脑想快快找工要不然就要露宿街头了， 右脑想还是多休息2天吧， 工迟早要做的。 看来是要勤快一点了， 等你好消息， 肯定没问题！ 到时候给我点建议 ^_^

qqyang

parpar will ask you about the salary you expect, do some homework on it.  

Show "can do" spirit!  parpar like the junior who love to take responsibility, and can solve the conflicts in a smart way.

You can goto PwC Australia's website, in graduate recruitment section, u can find quiz, which show you what kind of people PwC looking for, and whether you are one of them, you can finish the quiz and see the answer with comments.  I think it will be helpful for you.

Big4 are very similar, all the parpar are friends, schoolmates, lovers, or relatives, the circle is very small, so PwC's quiz is still valuable.

[ 本帖最后由 qqyang 于 2006-11-15 15:03 编辑 ]

paleyp2000

原帖由 琴儿 于 15/11/2006 14:55 发表
hehe...我现在正在痛苦的挣扎中 :si133  左脑想快快找工要不然就要露宿街头了， 右脑想还是多休息2天吧， 工迟早要做的。 看来是要勤快一点了， 等你好消息， 肯定没问题！ 到时候给我点建议 ^_^

sure sure. no problem.

paleyp2000

原帖由 qqyang 于 15/11/2006 15:01 发表
parpar will ask you about the salary you expect, do some homework on it.  

Show "can do" spirit!  parpar like the junior who love to take responsibility, and can solve the conflicts in ...

Thanks, qqyang!! I will go and have a look.

from the hr's feedback i got today from the headhunter. they are saying what i do is still quite different than what deloitte does. I think i can take that since small firms are definitely diff than big ones. also, they said i need to know more about deloitte.(even though they didnt ask me anything at all abt how much i know them at the interview.)

so now i think for the second round, par par would ask me more abt the technical parts which i think would be so diff since i'm doing diff stuff here.  

i like the term "par par".lol

水晶靴

一朋友的女儿大学工作实习，四大中的两大录取了她，被她拒了。

qqyang

For technical questions, i GUESS ha~~~
1. IFRS new standards.
2. Taxation, especially super related hot topic, capital roll over, etc.!!  These points are SME clients always wanna concern with, and has great potential benefit. (my taxation lecturer said, he just served millionnaires.)
3. Risk focus audit
4. Ethic questions (show your smart!)

There were no standards set for parpar interview, so they just ask what they like to ask, and identify whether they like you.