林家灭门案

高寿财

原帖由 cai9801 于 2009-7-21 16:22 发表
也有可能是因为目击武装抢劫被杀的。

1、店在对面，又上电视，歹徒很容易找到他。

2、店在对面，歹徒抢劫选择在那里的话，要经常在附近踩点，也就是说。受害人，常见到歹徒（至少歹徒这么想的）。歹徒觉得，受 ...

不是‘也有可能，是’很有可能‘。我和你想的一样。。

breville

原帖由 someeric 于 2009-7-21 21:57 发表
华人社区的各类组织应该联名给police和government写信，组织游行集会，施加舆论压力，敦促加紧破案。

但如果群众没有线索，或者知道了也不敢说，再给压力也没用。

annyshi

原帖由 someeric 于 2009-7-21 21:57 发表
华人社区的各类组织应该联名给police和government写信，组织游行集会，施加舆论压力，敦促加紧破案。

不可行-万亿是自己人干的那，怎么办？

xsjrr

不管是谁干的都要严惩。附：自己人就更不应该了，对自己人还如此残忍，难以想象。
愿早日破案，逝者安息

咋地办哩

一直想不懂，如果仅仅是运钞什么的杀人灭口，为什么不用枪或刀，偏偏用钝器打？更多的像是在泄愤

hardlife

标题不对, 不是灭门. 女儿还活着呢.

kinkui

澳洲华人都是自私鬼,胆小鬼! 这种情形怎么还坐得住呢? 起码都要来个 protest  demonstration

一炷香

我真的不知道该怎么看待你这个留言

kyu

原帖由 一炷香 于 2009-7-21 23:06 发表
我真的不知道该怎么看待你这个留言

你管他呢。。。继续关注。做自己能做的事情吧。。

annyshi

原帖由 kinkui 于 2009-7-21 22:58 发表
澳洲华人都是自私鬼,胆小鬼! 这种情形怎么还坐得住呢? 起码都要来个 protest  demonstration

扣分-20

USANA365

无法想象...他们是如何告别这个充满威胁的世界!

LONELYMELBOURNE

原帖由 ￡猪猪￡ 于 21-7-2009 20:07 发表
恩? 采集指纹了没? 还有地板上的毛发, 还有被害人指甲里的皮屑之类...

老外真的是很... 我接触下来以后才发觉真是... 算个简单的算术都算老半天 有时候还算错...
我电脑算的白痴了 竟然还可以去教他们...

不 ...

估计是你接触的西人有问题，如果你去firm试试，你就知道什么是人精了。

￡猪猪￡

人精我领教过 除了感叹自愧不如之外 别无他法 我这辈子是做不到他们那种程度了...

￡猪猪￡

这种东西和性格很有关系, 和年龄无关.

我原本以为随着年龄的增长阅历的增加可能会越来越精 但是发现年纪小的精的多着呢 根本不是他们的对手...

不过话说回来 每个人有每个人的过法 大大咧咧的不一定过的不快乐 正所谓傻人有傻福吗 呵呵

不好意思楼主 歪贴了...

billwang

找一个组织为依托，联名众多华人，给相关部门写一封信，表达一下华人们对这个案件的关注，希望能早日查清案情，抓住凶手。也捎带施加了一些压力，别随便把案子放在旁边了。
也是足迹网和那个新快报吧，出名的好机会啊，别猫着了，快。

大家们的关注需要一个沟通和发泄的途径啊。

[ 本帖最后由 billwang 于 2009-7-22 02:09 编辑 ]

wdmznzd

楼上的有人建议上街抗议，抗议什麽呢？ 警察办案不会像CSI和Law and Order那样神勇，还是先安下心来，我们华人社区的力量应该体现在对这个家庭的支持上，至少在电视画面上去这家献花的和表示同情的很少华人，而且警方联系这个家庭的其他成员了解遇害者的社会联系都遇到了困难，出来提供情况的也都是西人邻居。

一炷香

死者安息，生者坚强。昨晚居住在凶案事发区域附近的居民，包括联邦议员Maxine McKew聚集在当地的一所教堂，商讨如何稳定居民不安的心，尤其是那些孩子们。

前来的家长纷纷表达了自家孩子恐惧的心理，一名15岁的女孩从得知凶案后，睡前总会在枕头底下放着一把榔头，一名16岁的男孩现在也坚持在睡觉的时候把灯开着。更多的家长担心，下周学校假期的结束将可能导致这种恐惧情绪进一步蔓延。

家长们被告知最好的处理方式是以身作则告诉孩子，父母是多么疼爱孩子。同时，家长也要留意孩子是否有反常的举动。



Searching for clues . . . at the Lin family's home in North Epping yesterday, police continued their investigations, left, while neighbours and friends left flowers. Photo: Anthony Johnson


Neighbours dread telling children

http://www.smh.com.au/national/neighbours-dread-telling-children-20090722-ds9k.html
Ellie Harvey and Jonathan Dart with Georgina Robinson, Dylan Welch and Geesche Jacobsen
July 22, 2009 - 6:14AM


A 15-YEAR-OLD girl now sleeps with a hammer under her pillow, and a 16-year-old boy needs the light on - these are the most painful signs of the fear gripping the North Epping community since the brutal murder of a family while they slept.

Investigators continued a painstaking examination of the three bedrooms yesterday where Min and Lillie Lin, their two boys, Henry, 12, and Terry, 9, and Lillie's younger sister, Yun Bin Lin, were murdered, as it was revealed Lillie Lin was held at knifepoint during a robbery at the family's newsagency a month ago.

Last night more than 200 residents, including the federal MP Maxine McKew, attended a meeting at which they discussed how to deal with the crime and speak of it to their children.

Held at All Saints Anglican church - one street away from where the Lins lived - many parents or grandparents arrived, some with children who were schoolmates of Henry and Terry, and whose primary school was in the same street where the Lin family lived. The meeting lasted about an hour and a half.

Jennifer Lugsdin, mother of a three-year-old and a five-year-old, said parents were told the best way to help their children was to lead by example.

"They said that the healing process starts now and the best way to help each other is not by talking about the case, and speculating . . . but rather moving forward and talking about our love for the family and how special they were to us . . . children learn a lot from what they see and hear you doing."

Ms Lugsdin said they were told the only information children under five should be given is that the family had died - any more was unnecessary. Parents were also told about signs to watch for in teens.

"One lady said her 15-year-old [daughter] was sleeping with a hammer under her pillow and at that point everyone just burst into tears," Ms Lugsdin said. "Another man said his 16-year-old son was sleeping with the light on. A lot of people were feeling really moved by how much it's going to affect that age group, particularly next week when they go back to school."

Alex, a local man with an adult son, and a regular customer at the Lins' newsagency, said he had friends who had moved to the area because it was such a friendly neighbourhood.

"We've got friends who are from other countries who have chosen to come and live here because of the type of community it is, and it hits them pretty hard."

Details from autopsies about whether the victims were physically or chemically restrained are not expected until Friday. Police have described the attack as "targeted" and said there were no signs of a forced entry or anything having been stolen.

一炷香

悉尼Bond大学犯罪学副教授Wayne Petherick认为，从受害人数和犯罪手段的恶劣性来看，这起灭门案的凶手几乎肯定认识受害者，并且其行凶目的带有强烈的个人报复动机。

Petherick教授指出，事发住所并无强行进入的痕迹，也说明了凶手同受害者家庭的关系非同一般。他同时说道，这起案件提醒人们，自己的住所不一定就是一个避难所。有时候，最亲近的人才是最危险的。


Killings most likely retaliation: profiler  

http://www.smh.com.au/national/killings-most-likely-retaliation-profiler-20090721-ds48.html
Dylan Welch Police Reporter
July 22, 2009


THE person who bashed to death five people while they slept almost certainly knew them and would have been motivated by an intensely personal need for revenge or retribution, a leading criminal profiler said.

As dozens of detectives and forensic staff enter the fifth day of investigatons in to the murders of the Lin family, a Bond University criminologist said those responsible for such a brutal, targeted crime were almost always known to their victims.

"The sheer number of victims and the brutality of the crime does tend to suggest a retaliatory offence, a revenge offence," Associate Professor Wayne Petherick said.

"And those kind of crimes tend to have these hallmarks; they tend to be very vicious, very personal attacks, and they're always the result of a real or imagined wrong. And retaliatory offences … usually indicate a known suspect."

The murders were also categorised as a "mass homicide", murders involving more than three people, putting them in the highest and most rare category of crimes.

The commander of the Homicide Squad, Detective Superintendent Geoff Beresford, has described the killings as "intensely personal", but has not ruled out multiple killers.

It is understood detectives will spend much of this week examining the family's business and personal background, trying to establish motive.

The apparent lack of forced entry also provided some ability to narrow the field of investigation, he said.

"What kind of security does the house have? Who knew about the security? Were there any spare keys left out?"

Investigators would be concentrating particularly on victimology, the branch of criminal science which establishes and examines the relationship between victim and offender, he said.

"In cases like this the entire case will revolve around … who the victims are, what they are involved in, who they associated with, what they did during the day, what they did at night."

The crime was also a stark reminder that, contrary to popular belief, your home can be a dangerous place rather than a refuge, Mr Petherick said.

"We are most at risk from the people closest to us."

想念天空

非常同情临近区域的人们，希望早日破案，他们也能早点回归正常生活状态。

breville

原帖由 一炷香 于 2009-7-22 07:36 发表
Killings most likely retaliation: profiler  

http://www.smh.com.au/national/k ... -20090721-ds48.html
Dylan Welch Police Reporter
July 22, 2009


THE person who bashed to death five people while they slept almost certainly knew them and would have been motivated by an intensely personal need for revenge or retribution, a leading criminal profiler said.

As dozens of detectives and forensic staff enter the fifth day of investigatons in to the murders of the Lin family, a Bond University criminologist said those responsible for such a brutal, targeted crime were almost always known to their victims.

"The sheer number of victims and the brutality of the crime does tend to suggest a retaliatory offence, a revenge offence," Associate Professor Wayne Petherick said.

"And those kind of crimes tend to have these hallmarks; they tend to be very vicious, very personal attacks, and they're always the result of a real or imagined wrong. And retaliatory offences … usually indicate a known suspect."

The murders were also categorised as a "mass homicide", murders involving more than three people, putting them in the highest and most rare category of crimes.

The commander of the Homicide Squad, Detective Superintendent Geoff Beresford, has described the killings as "intensely personal", but has not ruled out multiple killers.

It is understood detectives will spend much of this week examining the family's business and personal background, trying to establish motive.

The apparent lack of forced entry also provided some ability to narrow the field of investigation, he said.

"What kind of security does the house have? Who knew about the security? Were there any spare keys left out?"

Investigators would be concentrating particularly on victimology, the branch of criminal science which establishes and examines the relationship between victim and offender, he said.

"In cases like this the entire case will revolve around … who the victims are, what they are involved in, who they associated with, what they did during the day, what they did at night."

The crime was also a stark reminder that, contrary to popular belief, your home can be a dangerous place rather than a refuge, Mr Petherick said.

"We are most at risk from the people closest to us."

凶手阿凶手，请你千万不要是我们华人！！！！！

Melbourner1978

突然感觉这个人渣很有可能是华人

亲子育儿

原帖由 Melbourner1978 于 2009-7-22 08:57 发表
突然感觉这个人渣很有可能是华人

千万不要阿

sweeet

这个表情是最大值的吗？

Melbourner1978

个人猜测，死者一家是华人移民，应该不会跟西人有太多的纠纷，作案这种手法的不是亲戚就是很熟的朋友，很有可能就是我们自己的同胞干的。

kyu

楼上的耍屏。。。

charmaine

一下子杀这莫多人，又没有反抗的迹象，怎莫觉得凶手不止一个呢？

亲子育儿

原帖由 sweeet 于 2009-7-22 09:09 发表
这个表情是最大值的吗？

不是

win7

原帖由 Melbourner1978 于 2009-7-22 08:57 发表
突然感觉这个人渣很有可能是华人

我也这么认为，而且是跟这受害家庭关系非常密切的人。
连小孩都不放过，只是因为这些小孩都认识他（们）。

亲子育儿

原帖由 win7 于 2009-7-22 09:28 发表

我也这么认为，而且是跟这受害家庭关系非常密切的人。
连小孩都不放过，只是因为这些小孩都认识他（们）。

有道理！希望大女儿能提供有价值线索

还有，我其实很佩服那些警员侦探。

这种案子，在血淋淋的房子里面反复勘查，工作，到处都是恐怖和血腥的气氛，说不定会办公室，还要反复研究死者惨不忍睹的死状照片。

大家都是有血有肉的人，谁也不是铁皮做的。能受得了这个？我觉得时间长了，警员的心理健康是个很大的问题。不是说有个警员，抗不住，请求心理治疗了嘛。

想想也怪吓人的。天天看，还反复思考，晚上做梦都要梦见了。

[ 本帖最后由 亲子育儿 于 2009-7-22 09:33 编辑 ]

pinkgie

原帖由 charmaine 于 2009-7-22 09:19 发表
一下子杀这莫多人，又没有反抗的迹象，怎莫觉得凶手不止一个呢？

我也认为凶手应该不止一个。而且用钝器杀人，怎么其他人会没听到声音？杀了睡在身边的那个，另一个也会醒了吧？也会尖叫吧？除非凶手是一次杀了全部再慢慢......