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退役斑竹 2007 年度奖章获得者

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看的那个羡慕呐~~~~~

LZ请继续填坑!
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正在琢磨巴厘游呢,LZ能多提供点信息吗?比如上哪订票,景点介绍之类的。

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看旅游节目介绍过猫屎咖啡,评价都是有点酸酸的怪怪的味道,不知缘何贵得这么厉害,大概物以稀为贵吧。
6楼咖啡边上的木棍是用来搅拌咖啡的吗?

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今天的报纸,The age, 真是不同人不同感受.

Bali: why bother?
Carolyn Webb
October 25, 2011 - 11:13AM

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How's the serenity? What serenity, asks a frustrated traveller.

I once vowed never to go to Bali. The drunk Aussie tourists! The traffic! The noise! The tacky souvenirs! I mean, why would you go?

Well, earlier this month I caved in. They were holding a writer's festival at Ubud, the bustling town in the hills, well north of both the smoggy capital Denpasar and the beachside tourist trap of Kuta.

I wanted warm weather, and it was cheap. Wasn't Ubud full of temples, verdant rice fields and friendly people?
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Tourist hot spot ... a man removes a beach lounger from Kuta Beach. Photo: Jason South

Well I went. And I wasn't greatly impressed.

First the good points. Perfect weather, lovely countryside once you get away from the towns. Fantastic, fresh cuisine including home-grown fruit, meat and coffee. Sumptuous but cheap hotels. Beautiful culture with Hindu temples every 20 metres, lovely dancing and artwork.

The Ubud Writers' and Readers' Festival, starring singer Paul Kelly and novelist Alexander McCall-Smith was great, staged in laid-back tropical cafes and function centres.

Drink of choice ... Bintang beer. Photo: Jason Childs

In short, Ubud would be a great holiday destination, if they removed the frankly terrible street touts, and the tacky souvenir shops.

I am not exaggerating to say that vendors of transport and souvenirs harass tourists from morning to night.

Single women, especially, cannot walk more than 10 metres without being shouted at, approached, pleaded with, harangued and harassed with the words, "Miiisss, miiisss, transport, taxi, where you going ... miiiisss?" I thought my name had been changed to Miiisss.

Pollution ... rubbish burns on a beach in Bali. Photo: Peter Riches

I was once strolling along one of Ubud's main roads when a young man drove his motorbike across the footpath, blocking my way so I had to stop. (The word "taxi" is used loosely in Ubud - they're not regulated, nor do they have meters and anyone can call their motorbike or car a taxi.)

This tout smiled and asked if I wanted "transport". I smiled and explained very politely that, in Australia, if a woman gets on a motorbike with a stranger, that is called prostitution.

He looked as though I'd just told him the sun was a balloon. I don't think he honestly had a clue what I was on about.

So why did I decline? Umm. Apart from possible serial killer issue, how about the strong likelihood of falling off the unregistered and possibly unroadworthy bike with no safety gear or helmet on to the crappy roads, well beyond the reach of any known travel insurance policy?

I often wondered what these touts would think if their sister or mother got on a motorbike with a strange man.

On another occasion, I had slipped away from the noisy, dusty main streets into the countryside and was happily walking past rural villages and fields (which are quite lovely) when another young motorcyclist stopped and approached me.

"You want transport, miiiissss?" he yelled. "No thanks," I smiled and kept walking. But he wouldn't take no for an answer, following me on his motorbike. "Where you staying, miiisss? You must need taxi." This went on for about five minutes, with me walking away from him until he left.

In the space of a week I started to hate walking the streets of Ubud - a bizarre thing when you're supposed to be relaxing on holidays. I would cross the road if I saw a gang of young men sitting on a stoop but they still would yell out 'MIIIISSSS, TRANSPOOOORT!!!"

I once saw a Western tourist with a T-shirt that said "no transport, no massage", which I laughed at, but I later seriously wished I had my own.

Then I started pretending to use my mobile phone as I walked, which oddly enough actually worked, save the odd, determined "Miiiisss … "

I developed a resentment of locals, which I'm sure is undeserved. I just wish they could see how bad their touts are and lock them away in a dark room.

Tourists are similarly harassed in Ubud if they go shopping in the kilometre-long retail love-in that is Monkey Forest Road. Picture walking down Chapel Street and being constantly screamed at from each doorway to buy things. Should I have enjoyed this?

As I walked along this thoroughfare, I started to notice ever-cheaper and more tacky souvenirs – wooden penises, plastic skeletons having sex. I mean, who buys these things? Imagine the conversation with the quarantine officer at Melbourne Airport: "Aah, thank you sir, we'll have to get your wooden penis irradiated but otherwise, it's all fine."

More to the point, who makes these souvenirs? Are there entire villages near Ubud that make wooden penises?

Occasionally in Bali, itinerant hawkers would bail you up.

One of the most disturbing incidents was the day I went on a half-day bus tour of the countryside taking in a spectacular volcano north of Ubud. We stopped on the rim road to view the distant volcano and on the way back to the bus an elderly man shoved a wooden statue of a Hindu god in my face, babbling in a very agitated way "You BUY?', pleeeese Miiiiss!!! You buy!!!!"

I made the mistake of touching the sculpture and he shoved it further towards my face, screaming at me. I knew it was an act he put on for every tourist so I didn't get too upset. It was just absurd. And really rude. Then he blocked the path to my seat. My tour guide watched on benignly. In the end I edged into my seat, stared straight ahead and the hysterical hawker went away.

Many times, with the "transpooort" guys and hawkers, I wondered: do the locals have any idea how their treatment of tourists comes across?

Then I thought, is it just me? Do other Australian tourists find the whole tout behaviour thing charming or amusing? I mean, do they see it as part of a carnival atmosphere that you just laugh off?

I thought it was vile. It didn't reflect well either on the Balinese or on the tourists; it was a lowest common denominator tourist hell.

Maybe I'm uninformed. Maybe the locals are so impoverished they adopt desperate measures to grab cash when they can, and we as rich Westerners should feel glad they are making a living. We should thus smilingly welcome the overt rudeness and invasion of privacy and lack of respect.

(Bad behaviour does go both ways - I equally would condemn those frightening Aussies overseas who urinate in the street and wear bikinis into temples. I was gobsmacked to see one topless young white guy at 11am one day strolling down Monkey Forest Road, open stubby in hand, his shorts almost down to his thighs to reveal his underpants).

My point is, aren't there better ways of doing business? If a tourist is treated so badly they don't want to ever return, isn't that a bad thing for Bali? Or do tourists not care how basely they're treated as long as they get a cheap flight, room and meals?

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/travel/ ... .html#ixzz1bmlGH4q4

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原帖由 flyvzu 于 2011-10-25 20:41 发表
很想知道怎么订到那么便宜的deal


我在virgin blue holiday上定的机票,然后再通过他们定住宿的话,是可以优惠的,有的两星级都不要加钱就能住上七天。

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原帖由 豌豆公主 于 2011-10-25 20:51 发表
正在琢磨巴厘游呢,LZ能多提供点信息吗?比如上哪订票,景点介绍之类的。


在virgin上定的票,直飞的,两个人1100多。
景点没有介绍,有的我都不知道名字,我是走马观花,囫囵吞枣。
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原帖由 hr6970 于 2011-10-25 20:52 发表
看旅游节目介绍过猫屎咖啡,评价都是有点酸酸的怪怪的味道,不知缘何贵得这么厉害,大概物以稀为贵吧。
6楼咖啡边上的木棍是用来搅拌咖啡的吗?


是的,是肉桂。

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原帖由 Mylittlelover 于 2011-10-25 20:45 发表
看的那个羡慕呐~~~~~

LZ请继续填坑!


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巴厘岛物价挺低的,30刀有大把的guest house可以选择,还包早餐,小而精的guest house比所谓的三星强很多

在各五星酒店的积分兑换里,巴厘岛的酒店也是最低的那个category, 性价比不错

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治安怎么样啊 计划明年七月去BALI 结果前几天吃饭 一个女孩她说 她同事才前两天从那回来 说是走50米 就有人上来问你要不要买GRASS,LZ去得时候有这样么
我是觉得 那些人看人的 外国人喜欢出国疯狂下 搞点GRASS玩 亚洲人 估计他们不会找吧

真的好想去趟啊

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原帖由 vikki 于 2011-10-25 22:15 发表


在virgin上定的票,直飞的,两个人1100多。
景点没有介绍,有的我都不知道名字,我是走马观花,囫囵吞枣。


看了很长时间都没有LZ说的这么便宜的,两个人1100多是包税的价格吗?我看现在最便宜单程282,而且2岁以上孩子根大人基本价格一样。真想去啊,可惜机票太贵了
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没有去过Bali

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原帖由 nancy.ma 于 2011-10-26 15:30 发表


看了很长时间都没有LZ说的这么便宜的,两个人1100多是包税的价格吗?我看现在最便宜单程282,而且2岁以上孩子根大人基本价格一样。真想去啊,可惜机票太贵了


sorry, 我在一楼更新了价格了,1100是不包tax的

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原帖由 marie_dd 于 2011-10-26 01:02 发表
治安怎么样啊 计划明年七月去BALI 结果前几天吃饭 一个女孩她说 她同事才前两天从那回来 说是走50米 就有人上来问你要不要买GRASS,LZ去得时候有这样么
我是觉得 那些人看人的 外国人喜欢出国疯狂下 搞点GRASS玩 亚洲人 估计他们不会找吧

真的好想去趟啊


那里很安全的。

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Mark

退役斑竹 参与宝库编辑功臣

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看照片,住宿的条件很不错呢~
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怎么找到special deal的

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说金巴兰海滩上的海鲜贵而不好吃····
。。。那个hot stone spa 要mark下···

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原帖由 datou2z 于 2011-11-1 11:46 发表
看照片,住宿的条件很不错呢~


巴厘岛的基础设施真没法儿和中国比,但人家特有情调,像这样的住宿在那里有很多呢。

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原帖由 adduvs 于 2011-11-1 12:03 发表
怎么找到special deal的


virgin的blue holiday.

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看了你的帖子动心了,更动心的是NUSA DUA的5星旅店7晚900刀,包中午餐,可以带两个孩子。有点觉得7晚太久了,带着两个孩子会不会没什么地方玩儿,而且公共设施脏的话,孩子去是不是不方便啊,最重要的,蚊子有吗?女儿被蚊子一咬就会容易发烧。 谢谢LZ啊
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我也想6月去,LZ第一楼的报价是每个人的价钱吧,还是一共啊

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哇塞,34楼的粗略看了一下,带着孩子还真有点犹豫啊

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请问楼主 语言是问题么

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原帖由 CAIYANGBACHEL 于 2011-11-4 15:46 发表
请问楼主 语言是问题么


印度尼西亚语,英语

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原帖由 悉尼雪 于 2011-11-4 14:46 发表
我也想6月去,LZ第一楼的报价是每个人的价钱吧,还是一共啊


一共啊。
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原帖由 悉尼雪 于 2011-11-4 14:44 发表
看了你的帖子动心了,更动心的是NUSA DUA的5星旅店7晚900刀,包中午餐,可以带两个孩子。有点觉得7晚太久了,带着两个孩子会不会没什么地方玩儿,而且公共设施脏的话,孩子去是不是不方便啊,最重要的,蚊子有吗?女儿被蚊子一咬就会容易发烧。 谢谢LZ啊


我去的时候没什么蚊子,还好呢,比澳洲少多了。你看的那个deal不错啊!

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原帖由 vikki 于 2011-10-24 22:03 发表
这里没有阴雨,只有似火的艳阳。
这里没有片刻安静,只有嘈杂的摩托交织穿梭。
这里没有死气沉沉的写字楼,只有闲散的海岛风情。
这里不是墨尔本,这里是巴厘岛。
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刚刚从email里找到单据,把正确的信息放上来:
Virgin d ...

Thanks for sharing!

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NICE PLACE

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