澳大利亚联邦选举的基本知识

lucyzhou

I discuss with my friend yestoday, I understand they use the Green paper to count the seet in House of represensitive.

But how can you make sure every vote area has the same amount of people vote the candidate?

And What the proceed to choose the leader for different Parties?

Thank you for anyone who can helf me.

It is first time I vote.

bulaohu

Not every electorate has the same amount of residents. Urban electorates tends to have much more people, yet still have just one seat in the parliament.

The parties themselves choose their leaders by following their own rules. Normally this will involve a caucus vote.

t_guoguo

再请教新闻里的一句话
“Labor notionally holds 88 seats, meaning it would have been reduced to 79, a majority of four in the 150-seat Parliament. The Coalition would have 68 seats and there would be three independents.”
工党怎么会在150个席位中只有4个？
http://www.theage.com.au/federal ... 20100817-128lf.html

bulaohu

The expected 79 seats will give Labor 4 seats more than the required half of 150, which is 75, and therefore win the rights to form a government.

t_guoguo

明白了
我没理解那个“majority”意思

老猫

谢谢lz。还是看不懂，几个问题关于参议员选举：
1。每个党可以提几个候选人？票上每个group的人数是如何定出来的？
2。第一种方法，只选一个group，可那group只有4人。可是我们应选出6个参议员哪，难道自动放弃2人？
3。第一种方法 ，你说“在横线以上，只选择一个空格填上数字1”，计票时你又说“那么多出的选票将按照在把我填成1的所有130,000张选票上被选在第2位的人按比例分配”，矛盾啊，除了1其他都是空啊，哪里来的2？仅适用于第二种方法？可几乎很少人按照此方法投票啊。
4。互换选票是什么意思？是说，若按第一种方法投票，比如工党把多余的票可给绿党，绿党把多余的票给工党？
TaTa

[ 本帖最后由 老猫 于 2010-8-19 16:38 编辑 ]

bulaohu

1. I don't know. The groups are results of preference exchange between political parties. You can ask to see the GVT to see how many people are actually in a group.

2. Senate vote is a quota-based system. Say that each candidate needs 16% of the vote to be elected. Amy got 30% of total vote, then the extra 14% will get distributed according to the preference. And so on. You may have only 4 person in one group, but people can vote for other groups, and eventually there still will be 6 winners.

3. Request to see the GVT. That will explain it.

4. No one can exchange votes, they exchange preferences. Preference decides who your vote goes to when the guy/girl you voted for has already got enough votes to reach the quota.

飞飞鱼

原帖由 t_guoguo 于 2010-8-18 11:38 发表
再请教新闻里的一句话
“Labor notionally holds 88 seats, meaning it would have been reduced to 79, a majority of four in the 150-seat Parliament. The Coalition would have 68 seats and there would be th ...

79-150/2=4

南飞雁

谢谢知识普及，我今天在恶补

令狐不冲

写的非常详细,谢谢~~

赚钱是王道

原帖由 bulaohu 于 2010-7-21 10:15 发表
还有同学说绿党跟工党交换preference然后就能要求外交部长的职位了，那也是个概念错误，互换选票跟联合参选是两码事，绿党是个小党，按照澳洲的选举制度他们进入下议院的可能性很小，但由于支持率超过了10％，会在参议院有几个席位 ...

现在的选举结果看来，绿党有望出任部长职位了吗？

bulaohu

原帖由 赚钱是王道 于 2010-8-24 09:13 发表


现在的选举结果看来，绿党有望出任部长职位了吗？

他们现在进入了下议院，但是形势微妙，工党如果能把所有的独立议员都拉拢过来的话实际上就不需要绿党的一票了，但是如果只能拉拢两个，那么绿党这一票就至关重要。再加上绿党在参议员有了balance of power，工党是有可能要给绿党这个人一个junior minister的位置的

chinese

学习了！写得真好！

小马识途

原帖由 老猫 于 2010-8-19 16:27 发表
谢谢lz。还是看不懂，几个问题关于参议员选举：
1。每个党可以提几个候选人？票上每个group的人数是如何定出来的？
2。第一种方法，只选一个group，可那group只有4人。可是我们应选出6个参议员哪，难道自动放弃2人？
3。第一种方法 ， ...

我的理解：
1。每个党可以随便提几个候选人，但太多会分散选票。
2。如果你选了group，你的那张选票选谁，以什么顺序，都由group来决定
3。同上， group会决定你的其他序列候选人
4。这个不太确信，我觉得应该是当你选group时，工党，绿党互相把对方作为preference。我觉得不太可能交换第一序列，因为选票的顺序应该在记票之前就确定了，那个时候没人敢保证自己已经够票数。