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退役斑竹 2007 年度奖章获得者 2008年度奖章获得者

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原帖由 cecily_sun 于 2009-8-17 16:33 发表
没有经历过这种伤痛的人,这样推测一个小女孩实在不应该。
你们知道事情发生后,这个女孩面对的是怎样的困境,有多少事情她必须要承担?
。。。。。。
我看了电视,很心痛,也不觉得她的笑有问题。

曾经有个同 ...

有共鸣!

昨晚,15岁的林珺表示父母一定是被人“盯”上的,如果真的要杀全家的话,凶手完全可以再等几天等她从海外回来后再动手。

经历如此悲痛的家庭惨剧,相信给年少的林珺的心里投下巨大的阴影,也催生她的心智走向成熟。她含笑的对答中似乎看不出特别的哀伤,但她姑姑说这是在人前,其实独自在家的时候林珺哭得很厉害。

正是这种镜头前的强颜欢笑,让著名媒体人Ray Martin采访时也眼眶红红。想起她一个多星期前在葬礼上的情景,禁不住让人再为之噙满泪水。。。







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岁 月 如 歌

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看了视频,心里很悲痛。惟愿好人一生平安吧

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刚看完,明显的感觉这个女孩在强颜欢笑,说话都能感觉出来是哭腔,可能是想表现出自己坚强的一面吧。文化的不同。怀疑她的人太不应该。

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是哪个台?几点的?我怎莫就看不到?

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RAY MARTIN: When you saw your grandfather and grandmother so upset, crying when they were standing out there, did you decide yourself that you had to stay happy, that you had to stay without crying or else they'd be more hurt?

BRENDA LIN: Um, yeah, I guess so, 'cause then if I cried or was upset, they would also get more upset. So they had to see me - if I was OK, it would probably make them feel a little bit better.

看到这里我哭了,多好的女孩啊! 这个时候还在为别人想!
Enjoy life

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原帖由 粉色猪猪桃丽丝 于 2009-8-17 17:20 发表
刚看完,明显的感觉这个女孩在强颜欢笑,说话都能感觉出来是哭腔,可能是想表现出自己坚强的一面吧。文化的不同。怀疑她的人太不应该。


对,我看完也有同感,根本不是之前有人说得“笑得很灿烂”。看了那些贴,脑袋里居然也闪过怀疑她的念头,还好好想了一阵为什么不可能是她。自我批评一下
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想起鲁迅的一句话, xx人不殚以最坏的恶意来揣测。。。。

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我的感觉是这个女孩不愿意让外人看到她悲伤的一面。
祝福这个坚强的女孩!!

退役斑竹

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悉尼警方透露,从对凶案现场的勘察来看,杀害林家的有两名凶手,各自使用不同的武器。各种蛛丝马迹甚至显示,凶犯有着职业杀手倾向,而非出于个人目的。

现场缺乏有用的证据,林家遇害前住处供电被切断,以及有着明显事先策划的痕迹让警方有理由相信凶手起码是个半职业杀手。警方还怀疑,由于林家书报店的火红生意可能是导致5人成为集团犯罪注意的对象。然而距离事发一整个月,警方到现在尚未确定凶器为何物,只知道是某种钝器。

林家的长女Brenda在接受9频道的60分钟节目采访时表示,她相信凶手是冲着她父母而来的。



Two likely to have killed the Lin family

http://www.smh.com.au/national/two-likely-to-have-killed-the-lin-family-20090818-ep3o.html
Dylan Welch
August 19, 2009


TWO people killed the Lin family, probably with separate weapons, evidence in the investigation in the North Epping murders has shown.

The information, garnered from the crime scene and forensic testing, suggests it is more likely the murders were professional and organised, rather than personally motivated.

The lack of usable forensic evidence from the crime scene, the fact that the power was cut before the murders and the apparently high degree of planning lend credence to the theory that the killers were at least semi-professional.

It is understood that all the local relatives of the murdered family have been accounted for at the time of the killings, and that profits in the past financial year of more than $1 million from the family's newsagency might have made the family a target for organised crime groups.

Min Lin, his wife, Yun Li ''Lillie'', her sister, Yun Bin ''Irene'', and the couple's sons, Henry and Terry, were bashed to death on the second floor of their Boundary Road home in the early hours of July 18.
The couple's other child, 15-year-old Jun ''Brenda'' Lin, was on a school trip to New Caledonia when the murders happened.

The weapons used in the murders have not been found and detectives on Strike Force Norburn, comprising Homicide Squad detectives and some assistance from the Asian Crime Squad, are struggling to find a motive.

Brenda recently revealed that she believed at least two of the victims had been specifically targeted.

''It seemed to be personally aimed at my parents,'' she said in a paid television interview with Channel Nine's program, 60 Minutes, on Sunday.

The current affairs show went as far as to show, in a re-enactment, two men climbing a flight of stairs and carrying a baseball bat and torch.

But it is understood a preliminary forensic review has been unable to establish what types of weapons were used, except that they were blunt.

Brenda was also trying to move on with her life and might soon return to school. A family lawyer, Daniel Sheen, said: ''Maybe she will go back to school in two weeks - maybe.''

Anyone with information about the murders can contact Strike Force Norburn detectives via Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Donations to Brenda can be made to Commonwealth Bank account number 11139323, BSB number 062006, under the names Yang Fei Lin and Feng Qin Zhu.


Dylan Welch is the Herald's Police Reporter

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这个书报店上一个财年的利润是一百多万?我是不是理解错了啊?见悉尼晨报

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生意红火?那会不会是竞争对手找人干的?

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It is understood that all the local relatives of the murdered family have been accounted for at the time of the killings, and that profits in the past financial year of more than $1 million from the family's newsagency might have made the family a target for organised crime groups.

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原帖由 luckynumber 于 2009-8-17 10:11 发表

也许真的是悲伤过头,这么惨的事都经历过了,还有什么难的


我同意,因为已经哭的太多了,已没有泪水,心理医生也辅导过了,已被别人n次和自己n次鼓励要坚强的活下去了。
笑是鼓励自己要面对太残酷的现实。
我坚定不移的相信,杀人的是职业杀人犯,或种族主义暴徒。

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原帖由 flyspirit 于 2009-8-19 09:49 发表
生意红火?那会不会是竞争对手找人干的?


可能生意太好,要交保护费,林不愿意,就给灭门了,瞎猜的,:)

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原帖由 粉色猪猪桃丽丝 于 2009-8-17 17:20 发表
刚看完,明显的感觉这个女孩在强颜欢笑,说话都能感觉出来是哭腔,可能是想表现出自己坚强的一面吧。文化的不同。怀疑她的人太不应该。

同感。。
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LIM家的NEWSAGENCY生意一年挣1百万?

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一年一百万利润,营业额至少要3-5个M,一天要TURNOVER超过1万,要知道这行的利润很薄的,报纸才挣1毛钱一份的。那是天方夜谭,这报导失实。懂行的进来。


TWO people killed the Lin family, probably with separate weapons, evidence in the investigation in the North Epping murders has shown.

The information, garnered from the crime scene and forensic testing, suggests it is more likely the murders were professional and organised, rather than personally motivated.

The lack of usable forensic evidence from the crime scene, the fact that the power was cut before the murders and the apparently high degree of planning lend credence to the theory that the killers were at least semi-professional.

It is understood that all the local relatives of the murdered family have been accounted for at the time of the killings, and that profits in the past financial year of more than $1 million from the family's newsagency might have made the family a target for organised crime groups.
Min Lin, his wife, Yun Li ''Lillie'', her sister, Yun Bin ''Irene'', and the couple's sons, Henry and Terry, were bashed to death on the second floor of their Boundary Road home in the early hours of July 18.

The couple's other child, 15-year-old Jun ''Brenda'' Lin, was on a school trip to New Caledonia when the murders happened.

The weapons used in the murders have not been found and detectives on Strike Force Norburn, comprising Homicide Squad detectives and some assistance from the Asian Crime Squad, are struggling to find a motive.

Brenda recently revealed that she believed at least two of the victims had been specifically targeted.

''It seemed to be personally aimed at my parents,'' she said in a paid television interview with Channel Nine's program, 60 Minutes, on Sunday.

The current affairs show went as far as to show, in a re-enactment, two men climbing a flight of stairs and carrying a baseball bat and torch.

But it is understood a preliminary forensic review has been unable to establish what types of weapons were used, except that they were blunt.

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我也觉得太多了,不可能阿!!!

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利润应该没那么高, 有人在引导舆论

退役斑竹 2008年度奖章获得者 特殊贡献奖章

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如果还代卖 LOTTO 的话,有一点点可能。不过 1M 还是太多了点。

退役斑竹 2007 年度奖章获得者 2008年度奖章获得者

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原帖由 steveking 于 2009-8-19 19:49 发表
如果还代卖 LOTTO 的话,有一点点可能。不过 1M 还是太多了点。

今天早上翻译新闻看到这一段时,我心里也有疑问。记得林家六年前买下这间Newsagency时价格大约是67万左右(具体的准确金额待考证),要知道,澳洲的邮局、书报店生意非常稳定,但就是回本较慢。

试想一下,如果当时林家买入价仅67万,每年的Profit怎么可能会到100万呢?

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看得好难过...

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Lin family murders: lawyer 'sent letter naming killers'
Georgina Robinson
August 20, 2009 - 7:26AM
Police are not confirming reports a Sydney lawyer was sent a letter naming the alleged killers of newsagent Min Lin and his family.

The Lin family's lawyer, Daniel Sheen, was sent an anonymous two-page letter naming the killers and outlining how Min Lin, his wife Lillie, their two sons Henry and Terry, and Mrs Lin's sister Irene, were murdered, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Mr Sheen has reportedly handed on the letter to homicide detectives. But Homicide Squad Commander Geoff Beresford would not confirm the existence of the letter or what it contained.


"It is not in the interests of investigators, and therefore it is not in the interests of the Lin family, to be publicly airing this information," Detective Superintendent Beresford said.


"In fact the constant drip feed of information into the public domain, accurate or otherwise, has the potential to hamper the investigation and undermine the hard work being done by our detectives.


"The public can be assured that we are aggressively investigating each and every piece of information we receive.

"However it is important to stress that any information handed to police is treated with the strictest of confidence, and we will not be commenting on the contents of any information we may have received."


The Lins were found bludgeoned to death in their North Epping home last month.

The couple's other child, 15-year-old Jun "Brenda" Lin, was on a school trip to New Caledonia when the murders happened.

Evidence from the month-long investigation has shown two people killed the Lin family, probably with separate weapons.

The information, garnered from the crime scene and forensic testing, suggests it is more likely the murders were professional and organised, rather than personally motivated.

The lack of usable forensic evidence from the crime scene, the fact that the power was cut before the murders and the apparently high degree of planning lend credence to the theory that the killers were at least semi-professional.

It is understood that all the local relatives of the murdered family have been accounted for at the time of the killings, and that profits in the past financial year of more than $1 million from the family's newsagency might have made the family a target for organised crime groups.

The weapons used in the murders have not been found and detectives on Strike Force Norburn, comprising Homicide Squad detectives and some assistance from the Asian Crime Squad, are struggling to find a motive.

Brenda recently revealed that she believed at least two of the victims had been specifically targeted.

"It seemed to be personally aimed at my parents," she said in a paid television interview with Channel Nine's program, 60 Minutes, on Sunday.

The current affairs show went as far as to show, in a re-enactment, two men climbing a flight of stairs and carrying a baseball bat and torch.

But it is understood a preliminary forensic review has been unable to establish what types of weapons were used, except that they were blunt.

Brenda was also trying to move on with her life and might soon return to school. A family lawyer, Daniel Sheen, said: "Maybe she will go back to school in two weeks - maybe."

Anyone with information about the murders can contact Strike Force Norburn detectives via Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Donations to Brenda can be made to Commonwealth Bank account number 11139323, BSB number 062006, under the names Yang Fei Lin and Feng Qin Zhu.

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原帖由 villa 于 2009-8-19 20:16 发表

今天早上翻译新闻看到这一段时,我心里也有疑问。记得林家六年前买下这间Newsagency时价格大约是67万左右(具体的准确金额待考证),要知道,澳洲的邮局、书报店生意非常稳定,但就是回本较慢。

试想一下,如果 ...



按67万算,利润绝对没有100w,10到20差不多。
股票留儿子,幸福一辈子

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原帖由 pal 于 2009-8-20 07:36 发表
Lin family murders: lawyer 'sent letter naming killers'
Georgina Robinson
August 20, 2009 - 7:26AM
Police are not confirming reports a Sydney lawyer was sent a letter naming the alleged killers of ...


如果真的是有价值的消息就太好了.如果是有人乱写的,也应该赞一个.就应该这样,间隔的抛出不同的新闻,避免公众对此事淡忘.给警方增加压力.

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就怕凶手写的信,还把细节描述下,将侦查方向推入死角
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是一年的taking1.2M。

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有两件事不知道警察做了没有:

一 是定点访问。根据尸检确定的死亡时间范围(即作案时间),在案发后的若干天里,专门在这个时间段里,在林家附近一定范围内的路口设若干个检查点,盘查过往车辆,询问是偶尔经过还是规律性地经过,有无可疑车辆和情况。

二 设立一个专门的小组,专门搜集案发当天的这个时间段里,在整个悉尼北区设置的监控录像,尤其是林家附近的监控,包括商家和个人自行安装的,把每个车牌都登记在册,把车主列入侦查范围,尤其是案发前后两次出现在监控里的车辆,甚至发案前几日的都应该调取,因为可能有踩点。

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原帖由 Jones 于 2009-8-20 08:40 发表
有两件事不知道警察做了没有:

一 是定点访问。根据尸检确定的死亡时间范围(即作案时间),在案发后的若干天里,专门在这个时间段里,在林家附近一定范围内的路口设若干个检查点,盘查过往车辆,询问是偶尔经过还 ...


第一件事不清楚,不清楚做的依据是什么?
第二件事应该做了.碰到过类似的情况,被警察询问.但是凶手之前肯定踩好点儿了,专找僻静的地方走.
澳洲警察就是照章办事,其实不傻,人家好歹是科班出身,但是不排除有天赋高自学成才的凶手或是原来就是搞刑侦的.
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