澳大利亚保守党试图扼杀”安全学校“计划

一妮

椎名道哥 发表于 2017-6-19 15:43
说的就是你这种不会好好讨论问题非要把这话题往别人身上套的做法。我还没听说过悉尼有专门的同性恋学校这 ...

看你这回复很汗颜， 不知道你是什么年龄段的，讨论就讨论， 为什么要进行个人攻击呢？

owner

zflj 发表于 2017-6-24 10:25
Google的东西也要看去什么网站，假如Google许多中国无中生有的事，你就会直接进轮轮网站了。 ...

你神经病啊？google以后自然去看维州教育局官网啊!

我链接贴的都是维州教育局官网。你老几岁？
看得懂.gov是啥意思吗？

http://www.education.vic.gov.au/ ... ion.aspx?Redirect=1

李十三

支持扼杀安全学校（Safe School）计划

椎名道哥

一妮 发表于 2017-6-24 11:39
性取向问题从根本上说是一类精神心理疾病，至于为什么它会从精神类疾病中划出去， 你可以去网上找，这是 ...

【性取向问题从根本上说是一类精神心理疾病】

这话已经显示出你是个科盲了。扯再多阴谋论也无法把同性恋再塞回到“病”里面去，您就不能面对现实么？

北木山人

椎名道哥 发表于 2017-6-21 10:48
他们平时接触的社会不都是在体验异性恋……谁特么的歧视异性恋了？我也是异性恋，我为啥不觉得被同性恋歧 ...

如果按照你这个说法，平时接触的社会就是在体验异性恋，那么如果班上有同性恋同学，异性恋的学生也就是在体验同性恋了，还要体验同性恋的课程干嘛？画蛇添足吗？

椎名道哥

北木山人 发表于 2017-6-26 10:38
如果按照你这个说法，平时接触的社会就是在体验异性恋，那么如果班上有同性恋同学，异性恋的学生也就是在 ...

因为异性恋依然是大多数啊，而且碰上一个人缺省地就会把他/她当异性恋对待，同性恋无时不刻不在体验着“异性恋”。而在没有进行知识普及的前提下，异性恋则一般情况下根本不会考虑会有“同性恋”这种事情存在的，所以才要“think in others boot”这回事儿啊。

北木山人

椎名道哥 发表于 2017-6-26 10:47
因为异性恋依然是大多数啊，而且碰上一个人缺省地就会把他/她当异性恋对待，同性恋无时不刻不在体验着“ ...

为什么要体验式教育才能认知其他群体的存在？你小时候受过这个教育吗？你不也知道同性恋的存在？无可否认，一小部分同性恋是天生的，但更多是后天的经历或者教育或者受到影响形成的，并不是直的永远是直的，弯的永远是弯的。这个争辩到此为止吧，你的回复我不跟进了。

椎名道哥

北木山人 发表于 2017-6-26 10:57
为什么要体验式教育才能认知其他群体的存在？你小时候受过这个教育吗？你不也知道同性恋的存在？无可否认 ...

并没有说【非要】体验式教育才能知道【存在】

【体验式】教育是为了让大家知道，同性恋和异性恋一样，都是普通人

我小时候没受过这种教育，所以一直到高中大学，也还是和你们一样认为同性恋是病，后来自己查了资料、了解了很多历史知识之后，才发现同性恋并不是病，只是和异性恋一样的不同的性取向而已。如果从小就知道这件事情很普通，那就不会有长达十几年的时间内对同性恋群体另眼相看的错误做法了。所以我并不反对让小孩从下知道同性恋和异性恋一样正常的教育。

dragonballz

chenyunsun 发表于 2017-6-24 12:10
支持扼杀安全学校（Safe School）计划

me too

澳子

大牛哥 发表于 2017-6-20 14:19
据说，这人是个男版的宝琳汉森

看了半天难得大牛哥把楼扳直了！嘻嘻嘻

唐三马

对于戕害儿童的“安全学校计划”必须尽早扼杀。

Jovani

为了掩人耳目，瞒天过海，取了个高大上的名字"安全学校",咋一看联想以为是诸如教学生如何自我保护，比如绑架，等等的人身安全的课程，或者是具体说，学校的一些设施的安全事项等，想不到这其实是一个鼓励学生体验同性恋的勾当，真是其心可诛

含笑领便当

VIC教育局的Safe School还在继续使用Minus 18原创的教材。

同时这些教学材料还是饱含Minus 18的网站链接，同时还向学生推广Minus 18。

http://www.education.vic.gov.au/ ... ools-coalition.aspx


比如说，OMG I'm Queer， OMG I'm Trans， OMG My Friend Is Queer， Stand Out这些VIC Safe School的教学大纲材料，就都是来自Minus 18。





下面是这些教材在Minus 18网站上的原始出处。

OMG I'm Trans - Minus18

OMG My Friend Is Queer - Minus18

OMG I'm Queer - Minus18

Minus 18是一个LGBTI网站，包含同性恋交友功能。上面有很多LGBTI活动家创作的文章。下面是一些劲爆的

How to bind your chest

Cover Your Tracks

When Are You Ready To Do It?

然后下面的几个2015年的旧新闻，就有最早的Safe school包含推送Minus 18链接的描述，以及为什么Safe school包含Minus 18链接激起这么多的争议。

[SMH] Children at risk from predators on government website

Through the Safe Schools Hub, students are given the opportunity to "find out about" homophobia, and coming out.  When they click on the relevant page, they are taken to the websites of Youth Central, and the Safe Schools Coalition, as well as an associated site, Minus18, which describes itself as "Australia's largest network for LGBT youth".

All this comes from a website that contains what many would consider smut.  Minus18 is organising a gay ski weekend, advertising it with photos of semi-naked men.  Then there are the frenzied selfies of minors stripped down to their underwear and grabbing their crotches.

If this was a private website, it would be bad enough.  But the link to Minus18 comes from what is supposedly a safe website, referred from a federal government site.  

[heraldsun]Safe Schools transgender awareness program could do more harm to kids than good

The Safe Schools-promoted Minus 18 website, funded by the Victorian Government and promoted by the program nationally, advises “7 ways to bind your chest” — a practice which it casually admits can kill.

The Safe Schools-promoted Minus 18 website goes on to also affirm radical sexual experimentation.

因为激起公愤，自由党政府2016年整改Safe school时规定不得再和Minus 18有联系。VIC政府也不得不把Minus 18的链接从自己政府网站上去掉，但还偷偷摸摸的继续使用Minus 18原创的教材，还在教材里推荐学生去访问Minus 18，如果受限访问不了就去找老师。




然后VIC政府继续在Primary school里推行Safe school。下面是up to 今年3月加入Safe School的VIC学校列表。看看有多少Primary School加入了？有没有你孩子的学校？

List of Victorian Safe Schools as at 16 March 2017

Abbotsford Primary School Government Primary
Alphington Primary School Government Primary
Altona Green Primary School Government Primary
Altona Primary School Government Primary
Apollo Bay P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Beaconhills College Independent Pri/Sec
Benalla P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Bialik College Independent Pri/Sec
Billanook College Independent Pri/Sec
Briar Hill Primary School Government Primary
Brunswick East Primary School Government Primary
Brunswick South Primary School Government Primary
Buninyong Primary School Government Primary
Camberwell Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Cambridge Primary School Government Primary
Camperdown College Government Pri/Sec
Carey Baptist Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Carranballac P-9 College Government Pri/Sec
Carwatha College P-12 Government Pri/Sec
Caulfield Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Charles La Trobe P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Clifton Hill Primary School Government Primary
Coburg North Primary School Government Primary
Collingwood College Government Pri/Sec
Edenhope College Government Pri/Sec
Eltham College Independent Pri/Sec
Ferntree Gully North Primary School Government Primary
Fintona Girls' College Independent Pri/Sec
Firbank Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Geelong Grammar Independent Pri/Sec
Glengala/Sunshine West Primary School Government Primary
Goulburn Valley Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Hawkesdale P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Highvale Primary School Government Primary
Ivanhoe Girls Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Ivanhoe Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Karingal Primary School Government Primary
Kensington Primary School Government Primary
Kingswood College Independent Pri/Sec
Lalor East Primary School Government Primary
Laverton P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Little Yarra Steiner School Independent Primary
Lorne - Aireys Inlet P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Lowther Hall Anglican Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Macedon Primary School Government Primary
Macleod College Government Pri/Sec
Mallacoota P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Manor Lakes P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Maryborough Education Centre Government Pri/Sec
Mentone Girls' Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Merbein P-10 College Government Pri/Sec
Merino Consolidated School Government Primary
Methodist Ladies College Independent Pri/Sec
Montmorency South Primary School Government Primary
Mornington Park Primary School Government Primary
Mount Ridley P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Narre Warren South P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Newport Lakes Primary School Government Primary
Northcote Primary School Government Primary
Northern Bay P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
Oatlands Primary School Government Primary
Ocean Grove Primary School Government Primary
Overnewton Anglican Community College Independent Pri/Sec
Pakenham Springs Primary School Government Primary
Pearcedale Primary School Government Primary
Penleigh and Essendon Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Phoenix P-12 Community College Government Pri/Sec
Point Cook Prep - Year 9 College Government Pri/Sec
Preshil: The Margaret Lyttle Memorial School Independent Pri/Sec
Princes Hill Secondary College Government Secondary
Ruyton Girls' School Independent Pri/Sec
Seymour College Government Pri/Sec
Sherbrooke Community School Government Pri/Sec
Sholem Aleichem College Independent Primary
Southern Cross Primary School Government Primary
Spensley Street Primary School Government Primary
St Kilda Primary School Government Primary
St Leonard's College Independent Pri/Sec
St Michael's Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Taradale Primary School Government Primary
The Grange P-12 College Government Pri/Sec
The King David School Independent Pri/Sec
The Peninsula School Independent Pri/Sec
Timbarra P-9 College Government Pri/Sec
Trinity Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Tyabb Railway Station Primary School Government Primary
Viewbank Primary School Government Primary
Wandin Yallock Primary School Government Primary
Warranwood Primary School Government Primary
Wembley Primary School Government Primary
Wesburn Primary School Government Primary
Westbourne Grammar School Independent Pri/Sec
Williamstown Primary School Government Primary
Winters Flat Primary School Government Primary
Wodonga Middle Years College Government Pri/Sec
Wooragee Primary School Government Primary
Yarrawonga College P-12 Government Pri/Sec

澳子

现在就来练习习惯于这种现象免得以后恶心。。。

yuxuanlin

澳子 发表于 2017-6-27 00:11
现在就来练习习惯于这种现象免得以后恶心。。。

那放哥哥的照片, 还能增加食欲

放这个会吐到胃出血的

澳子

yuxuanlin 发表于 2017-6-27 00:25
那放哥哥的照片, 还能增加食欲

放这个会吐到胃出血的

增强免疫力！

annie3000

Nsw有另一个项目替代safe school. 不管怎样，我们都不应该歧视同性恋。

含笑领便当

继续来巴拉巴拉VIC Safe School的黑历史。
多亏某工党死忠，硬撑说safe school从来没有引用过Minus 18，逼得我去搜了web archive，结果找到了VIC Safe School的很多archive版本。

首先VIC Safe School的网站肯定是曾经包含直接通向 Minus 18的链接的。

2012版VIC Safe School

2014版VIC Safe School

其次无所谓有没有Minus 18的链接了，VIC的Safe school当时基本把Minus 18上的各种劲爆货都直接搬进自己的resource里了。在VIC Safe school的archive里我找了原始版本的Omg I am queer，大家去拜读下吧，看看这些文章适合不适合在学校里当教材？

https://web.archive.org/web/2015 ... d83175e00f4758d.pdf

第10页的doing it

Alice Chesworth

Guys, I’m not going to lie - sex can be pretty damn fun! I honestly don’t know why they don’t tell you this at school. Hell, they don’t really tell you much about how it can affect your emotions or relationships, or even about how to know when you’re ready.

It may come as a surprise, but there is no strict definition for virginity, especially if you’re queer. Penis-in-vagina sex is not the only sex, and certainly not the ultimate sex. If you ask me, virginity is whatever you think it is. I’ve had friends who count their first time giving oral as their virginity. Another friend defined it as the first time her hymen broke. That is, until she broke it while riding a bike... Honestly, there is just no way of telling if someone is a virgin! I’m bisexual, so I ended up thinking of myself as having two virginities, my first time with a chick and my first time with a dude. How you think about it is really up to you.

这些描述是用来反欺凌的？反欺凌就是让这些Minus 18上的LGBTI的社会活动家来教学生sex can be pretty damn fun! I honestly don’t know why they don’t tell you this at school. ？！教学生Penis-in-vagina sex is not the only sex, and certainly not the ultimate sex. ？！教学生my first time with a chick and my first time with a dude？！？！EXCUSE ME？！？！



然后这个网站上明明白白的写明了
Safe Schools Coalition Victoria is funded by the Victorian Department of Education and Department of Health
© 2013 Safe Schools Coalition Victoria. All Rights Reserved.

从2013年VIC教育部开始在学校里推行这个Safe School课程到2016年为止这个网站都是VIC Safe school的官方网站，这个网站是VIC教育部直接注资的。VIC工党政府既然在学校里推行这个课程，给这个课程提供资金，那就自然要对这个课程的内容负责！而且当全国家长都申讨这个课程，最后导致自由党政府对这个课程进行彻底整改的时候，也只有VIC工党政府还在不知悔改，继续使用Minus 18创作的那些教材！

newplace

salesbay 发表于 2017-6-16 11:27
工党我真不知道他干过什么有用的事

工党在2008年给大家发钱买房

成功推高了房价

simoninaustrali

你要么干脆同性婚姻合法化，这个safe school 就是工党来敷衍自己的一些选民的。

RobF

乾坤离析 发表于 2017-6-15 23:21
虽然我无足轻重，但是我还是要说。

你不能以偏见和蔑视的态度，来抵制我对你的看法，甚至是恶毒的攻击。特 ...

顶！反对同性恋需要从现在就做起，而不能再是反正和自己无关随便你们怎么闹。

同性恋现在通过各种渠道在洗幼小的孩子的大脑，我们的后代会越来越多的变成同性恋，同性恋是基因导致的完全是借口，不能解释为什么同性恋在某些政治思想宽容的国家比例越来越多的事实

馆长

RobF 发表于 2017-7-4 17:46
顶！反对同性恋需要从现在就做起，而不能再是反正和自己无关随便你们怎么闹。

同性恋现在通过各种渠道在 ...

是的，如果不明确的教育自己的孩子：基佬是变态，是不会被上帝所宽恕的。那么，家长的磨棱两可的态度就会让孩子产生误会，从而不以恶为恶，从而有了尝试一下这种邪恶欲念的想法，其后果就是孩子不一定真是同性恋，但可能会出现滥交。。。。。。
改日兽交也不再被人鄙视了，兽交者就会要求和同性恋者一样的权力，那么这个社会的道德水平就会一路奔着”所多玛“去。

betty_fairy

真是恶心！这辈子都站在反工党的队里

含笑领便当

想看VIC政府如何教学生练缩阳缩睾大法的，请点下面这个VIC教育局的链接，然后前往page 30。

http://www.education.vic.gov.au/ ... 20I%27m%20Trans.pdf

Tucking sometimes involves a technique of placing the testicles back inside the pockets inside your abdomen that lie on either side of the penis.



看我截图上大大的education.vic.gov.au域名和VIC州政府的Logo，是不是权威感倍增啊？VIC工党连缩阳入腹大法都要教，VIC果然是教育大省，澳洲教育的领头羊！

再仔细挖掘挖掘这篇VIC Safe School的教材，还会发现各种花样Play的方式哦

tianya99

这个也能叫计划?干脆再多点计划，培养大家吸毒的计划，制定杀人的计划。
这真是侮辱“计划”这个词，
让MSL收拾一下这个安全学校计划制定者吧

含笑领便当

chacuo 发表于 2017-7-4 23:08
求翻译

工党真是人才辈出啊

就是实实在在的教如何收阳入腹。

Tucking sometimes involves a technique of placing the testicles back inside the pockets inside your abdomen that lie on either side of the penis.

藏阳有时会采用一种把睾丸收进下腹部里阴茎两侧的一个空腔的技术。

以下是百度的“http://baike.baidu.com/item/%E9%9A%90%E7%9D%BE%E7%97%87”解释。

睾丸在正常发育过程中会从腰部腹膜后下降至阴囊，如果没有出现下降或下降不全，阴囊内没有睾丸或只有一侧有睾丸，称之为隐睾症，临床上也称为睾丸下降不全或睾丸未降。隐睾是小儿泌尿生殖系最常见的先天畸形之一，多表现为单侧，并以右侧未降为主，约15%为双侧。早产儿发病率约为30%，健康新生儿约为3%，3月时约为1%。隐睾时因睾丸长期留在腹腔内或腹股沟管里，受体内“高温”的影响，容易造成男性不育。另外，隐睾由于生长环境改变以及发育上的障碍，会使睾丸细胞发生恶变形成恶性肿瘤，隐睾发生恶变的机会大约是正常位置睾丸的30～50倍。

因此VIC工党教的，就是让学生主动把睾丸再收回到腹腔内去。至于有什么危害，百度上解释得很清楚了。很不可思议吧，VIC工党在政府开展管理的课程教材里教这个。

光脚小猪

真恶心

不太可能

还嫌街上的神经病不够多。。。

rabbitpig7

坚决反对 safe school