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[NSW] Doing hard maths for the HSC isn’t paying off. Here’s how it plays out for your [复制链接]

发表于 2024-5-17 14:39 |显示全部楼层
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今天SMH上的一篇文章,请哪位可以阅读的把文章粘贴过来,加分!
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发表于 2024-5-17 14:44 |显示全部楼层
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说的绝对不会是3U,4U。西人的hard maths是相对于Standard maths而言的。

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Doing hard maths for the HSC isn’t paying off. Here’s how it plays out for your ATAR

Teenagers who choose to study harder mathematics in their HSC get almost
the same ATAR as those who receive identical marks in a much easier course.

Education analysts say it is a quirk of the system which effectively punishes ambitious students because there is little pay-off for tackling higher-level mathematical concepts which students will require for university study.

Ambitious students are punished when it comes to ATAR because there is little pay-off for taking trickier mathematics, all other things being equal.

An HSC mark of 80 in mathematics standard translated into a nearly identical ATAR compared with the same mark in the more rigorous advanced course, according to the Universities Admissions Centre ATAR calculator.

Mathematical Association of NSW consultant Miriam Lees said the lack of boost to a student’s ATAR for doing a much more difficult course was failing to reward the effort required.

“There isn’t an ATAR boost for the advanced course and the effort required compared with the standard course,” she said.

Because universities had removed maths prerequisites to attract students, Lees said the incentive to study trickier maths no longer existed. Meanwhile, schools were steering students toward easier study options because they were more likely to score in the top band, which improved a school’s ranking in league tables.

Question 1 from the 2023 Mathematics Advanced 2 unit HSC exam
Question 1 from the 2023 Mathematics Advanced 2 unit HSC examCREDIT:NESA

And a much easier question 1 from the 2023 Mathematics Standard 2 unit HSC exam. (Answers at end)
And a much easier question 1 from the 2023 Mathematics Standard 2 unit HSC exam.

“Unless there is an ATAR boost, unless the universities say ‘you can’t do those courses’ [without advanced mathematics], then the students need the ATAR, and unfortunately advanced maths is the casualty of all of those competing needs,” she said.

Studying advanced mathematics in high school gave students a foundation of calculus skills which were required across degrees in economics, finance, chemistry and engineering. “There is a far greater chance of success in first-year university courses if [students] have done advanced mathematics,” Lees said.

To achieve an HSC mark of 80 or more, students demonstrate the skills set out by the HSC examiners, which is a much higher bar for students to meet in the advanced course due to the complexity of the topics studied.

However, Universities Admissions Centre scaling committee chair, Macquarie University Professor Rod Yager, said the system was working perfectly well if ATARs obtained by students who get a mark of 80 in standard and advanced mathematics were similar.

“This is how the system is supposed to work. The same standard of performance, regardless of the choice of subject in which the student chooses to demonstrate it, should result in the same ATAR,” he said.

“There have been many examples of students who have not taken mathematics extension 1 (and who are not accelerants) who have obtained mathematics advanced HSC marks of 98, 99 or 100 and so have been able to engage effectively with even the most difficult aspects of the examination.”

Former mathematics teacher Robin Nagy, from Academic Profiles, an education consultancy that works to help schools optimise their academic outcomes, said that in reality that was not the case.

Teachers say studying advanced  maths in years 11 and 12 better prepares students for the maths they will study at university.
Teachers say studying advanced maths in years 11 and 12 better prepares students for the maths they will study at university.

“The top band will typically go to those who are also doing maths extension 1 or those who benefited from studying extension 1 in year 11,” he said.

He said the NSW Education Standards Authority (NESA) set the exams tough and urged HSC examiners to move towards “strengths-based” system of assessment, which allowed students to demonstrate their knowledge rather than the current standards-based system.

“It is just so demotivating for students, they think they’ve understood it, there is so much they know, but when they hit the exam, they come out with 50 per cent,” he said.

A NSW Education Standards Authority spokeswoman said students had appropriate opportunities to demonstrate their level of knowledge, skills and understanding in the HSC mathematics exams.

“NESA does not scale HSC marks. Rather, a raw exam mark is aligned to a performance band. Each band reflects what a student at that level of performance typically knows, understands and can do,” she said.


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发表于 2024-5-17 16:13 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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