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[地区选择] $20M school to be built in Clayton area before 2010 [复制链接]

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Please read the following article from The Age. As mentioned in the news, the new high school could have impact on the neighbouring schools. I think it means the Glen Waverley SC and Mount Waverly  SC.

Also  I have noticed there are some big projects in the Clayton area, such as $25M community center around the shopping center and the synchrotron around Monash Uni Clayton Campus. Considering the already existing Monash Uni and Monash Medical Centre, it may be another booming area in the long run.  

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VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school as part of the State Government's push for a more selective public education system.
The $20 million John Monash Science School — for up to 650 year 10 to 12 students — will open in 2010 and be built on Monash University's Clayton campus.
But the move has already proved contentious, with some teachers warning that neighbouring mainstream schools would lose their best and brightest students.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/na ... /1186857347045.html
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VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school as part of the State Government's push for a more selective public education system.

The $20 million John Monash Science School — for up to 650 year 10 to 12 students — will open in 2010 and be built on Monash University's Clayton campus.

But the move has already proved contentious, with some teachers warning that neighbouring mainstream schools would lose their best and brightest students.

Education Department eastern region manager Jim Watterston said the John Monash Science School would favour students who showed an aptitude for maths and sciences.

Students would probably be selected from a combination of academic results, portfolio and interview, he said.

"We wouldn't want students who weren't capable of doing the work to be there, so there will be some academic focus in addition to interview and evidence of prior learning," Mr Watterston told The Age.

The school, to be built on the campus' south-western car park, will sit in a suburban science hub which includes the synchrotron, the CSIRO and the National Stem Cell Centre.

Students at the science school will have access to the university's lecture theatres, science laboratories, equipment and academic staff who could participate in some classes.

Mr Watterston said business and industry's contribution to equipment costs could "be quite significant", echoing federal Education Minister Julie Bishop's controversial push to get business more involved with schools.

By the time the science school opens in 2010, the number of select-entry state schools will have doubled to four after the arrival of two new academically selective schools in Melbourne's inner north and outer east. Maribyrnong College in Melbourne's west has also been developed into a specialist sports school.

But as the number of select-entry and specialist schools rise, the state's teacher union has warned neighbouring schools could suffer, as the elite schools attract better resources and more academically talented students.

Australian Education Union state secondary vice-president Meredith Peace said the union would seek assurances that state schools neighbouring specialist and select-entry schools would not be disadvantaged.

"We wouldn't want to see one school being resourced better than another," Ms Peace said. "All schools should be properly resourced, whether they are a specialist school or a standard secondary or primary school."

The union's concerns come as Monash University vice-chancellor Richard Larkins confirmed the university was also keen to have a secondary school at its Berwick campus.

Professor Larkins said the university had a 54-hectare site, the former Casey airfield, which it would consider selling or leasing to a state or private school.

"We like the idea as it helps transition to have secondary school students on the site of universities," Professor Larkins said. "Many of the students (around Berwick) come from families that wouldn't have gone to universities, so it wouldn't have entered their thinking (but) if they are on the same site they could recognise the possibilities."

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这个是精英学校么?

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这个好像就是传说中的outer easter selective school吧。

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Interesting

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原帖由 JasonLiu@Au 于 2007-8-13 09:37 发表
Please read the following article from The Age. As mentioned in the news, the new high school could have impact on the neighbouring schools. I think it means the Glen Waverley SC and Mount Waverly  ...


俺愚钝,没整明白,这到底是个啥中学,和房子到底有啥关系?是不是贴错位置了?

而且如果学校建在MONASH大学校园里面,应该属于CLAYTON NORTH,而不能算是CLAYTON区吧?!

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原帖由 melbren 于 2007-8-13 10:17 发表
这个好像就是传说中的outer easter selective school吧。

VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school as part of the State Government's push for a more selective public education system.

从维州政府为兑现大选前的承诺而最近披露的一系列措施来看,个人认为这所学校并非拟建中的两所男女混合的精英学校之一。

再说,Clayton也不像outer easter,还是属于东南吧。:si111
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俺愚钝,没整明白,这到底是个啥中学,和房子到底有啥关系?是不是贴错位置了?


而且如果学校建在MONASH大学校园里面,应该属于CLAYTON NORTH,而不能算是CLAYTON区吧?!


Good school has great impact on the surrounding area property price, it has been proved in Balwyn, Glen Waverley and Mount Waverley.

The school site will be on the south-western car park of Clayton Campus. By the way, there is no Clayton North on the map. In post code 3168, only has Clayton and Notting Hill.

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原帖由 JasonLiu@Au 于 2007-8-13 13:52 发表


Good school has great impact on the surrounding area property price, it has been proved in Balwyn, Glen Waverley and Mount Waverley.

The school site will be on the south-western car park of ...


谢谢指教!

但我想这所拟建中的学校和其他优质公立中学毕竟不同. 首先它该是择生录取,换句话说,不是只要'In the zone'就行的.  而且其他不在这个区域的数学和科学方面的特长生,也是应该可以入学的.  如此一来,这所学校的建立就不应该对周边房产造成多大的影响...  俺对学校没啥了解,不知道这样分析对不对...

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原帖由 JasonLiu@Au 于 2007-8-13 13:52 发表


Good school has great impact on the surrounding area property price, it has been proved in Balwyn, Glen Waverley and Mount Waverley.

The school site will be on the south-western car park of ...



入学是按照POST CODE 来的吗?请确认! 我怎么听说有的人在GLEN WAVERLEY住,孩子也不能上那所名校呢??

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入学是按照POST CODE 来的吗?请确认! 我怎么听说有的人在GLEN WAVERLEY住,孩子也不能上那所名校呢??

Glen Waverley Secondary College、Mount Waverley Secondary College等几所比较好的公立学校是按各自划分的校区招生,但即使在校区内居住,某些年级也会因为位置已满无法入学:

http://www.gwsc.vic.edu.au/index.cfm?top=239


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原帖由 villa 于 2007-8-13 14:56 发表

Glen Waverley Secondary College、Mount Waverley Secondary College等几所比较好的公立学校是按各自划分的校区招生,但即使在校区内居住,某些年级也会因为位置已满无法入学:

http://www.gwsc.vic.edu.au ...


多谢指教!这下明白了!!

CLAYTON的新学校应该没有'Neighbourhood Schools policy'吧,性质和招生方法到底不同的..

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找到工党在选举前的承诺报道。感觉clayton的这个有可能属于3个extra schools to run the program for gifted students之一。

Two new select-entry schools,东区这个有1200-student,看样子不是clayton这个。
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PARTY PLEDGES

LABOR
■$260m-plus for schools

■Two new select-entry schools

Three extra schools to run the program for gifted students

■Grants of $55,000 to secondary schools for science equipment

■50 scholarships for science and maths graduates to teach

■$50m to upgrade 200 high school science rooms

■$35m for teacher assistants

The $40 million project, which dominated Labor's education announcement yesterday, would see an 800-student school built in North Melbourne, and a 1200-student school built in Melbourne's eastern suburbs.

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原帖由 melbren 于 2007-8-13 16:41 发表
找到工党在选举前的承诺报道。感觉clayton的这个有可能属于3个extra schools to run the program for gifted students之一。

Two new select-entry schools,东区这个有1200-student,看样子不是clayton这个。 ...

谢谢老墨找的这个资料!++

Clayton这个因为就在Monsh大学,可能偏重数理。(VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school)

而outer eastern的那个男女混校的精英中学比较可能在Ringwood。

其实,对于自己的子女有信心的家长对此应该高兴,因为出类拔萃的子女们再也不用每天披星戴月赶到City那边读那两所精英男校和女校了。


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I read today that Vic is going to build 13 transit cities, including Box Hill, Ringwood, Dandenong and Frankston in east & southeast areas.

Not sure if the school things are included in the above plan.

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两间合起来2000学生的精英中学共花了40Milllion. 为什么Clayton这间650学生的高中要花20Million? 而且它是和Monash Uni 合用图书馆等设施的. Glen 的高中会象The Age 说的那样受影响吗?
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[quote]原帖由 melbren 于 2007-8-13 10:17 发表
这个好像就是传说中的outer easter selective school吧。

VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school as part of the State Government's push for a more selective public education system.
从维州政府为兑现大选前的承诺而最近披露的一系列措施来看,个人认为这所学校并非拟建中的两所男女混合的精英学校之一。

再说,Clayton也不像outer easter,还是属于东南吧。
[/quote]从今天的《The Age》相关报道中,可以确认这所拟建中、位于Monash大学Clayton分校的精英高中并不属于两所新的男女生混合精英学校之一。

The new schools are to open in 2010. One will be based in North Melbourne, while the other will be built at a yet-to-be-announced site in the outer east.

As The Age reported this week, plans are also in train for a $20 million maths, science and technology school for year 10 to year 12 students at Monash University's Clayton campus. The school will be the first of its kind for Victoria.


http://www.theage.com.au/news/na ... /1186857682333.html


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原帖由 villa 于 2007-8-17 08:36 发表

VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school as part of the State Government's push for a more selective public education system.
从维州政府为兑现大选前的承诺而最近披露的 ...



学校就是学校,房地产就是房地产.  尤其是这种需要择生录取的学校,更应该对那个区域的房产没啥子影响的!

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越来越多的传闻说是ringwood。这是本地报纸的一篇报道:

http://www.leadernews.com.au/art ... 19305_mmv_news.html

College future unclear
Brigid O'Connell

31Jul07


A shadow hangs over Ringwood Secondary College junior school as rumours spread that the school will soon move to select entry.
THE Education Department has failed to quash rumours surrounding the future of Ringwood Secondary College.


There is mounting speculation that the school's junior year levels will be dropped in favour of a select entry system within three years.
Parents fear that removing the only public secondary school in the zone will limit options, force children to the end of waiting lists for other schools and stop children joining siblings  at the college.
The Maroondah Leader  received calls from three concerned parents, who say they have heard rumours or have been directly told by the college that next year's intake of Year 7 students would be the last before the junior school was replaced by a Year 9 entry exam.
The State Government has pledged more than $40 million to set up two new specialist schools, one in North Melbourne and one in the outer east, to provide opportunities to academically talented students.
Heathmont parent Natasha Browne said that teachers at the college had confirmed the rumours, which she predicted would cause ``uproar'' among local families. ``There will be nowhere else to send our children because Great Ryrie Primary School and Eastwood Primary are zoned to feed into Ringwood Secondary, so they automatically get to go there,'' Ms Browne said.  
``But if it's gone the only option is a private or Catholic high school. ``We could cross zones into Heathmont, but we'll be at the back of the list.''
Another parent, who did not want to be named, said the proposal had been confirmed to her by teachers and she was worried her primary school-aged children would not be able to join siblings  at the college.
Education Department spokeswoman Anna Malbon would not comment if the school was being considered, but said a site for the eastern select entry schools was expected to be announced next year.
Principal Michael Phillips did not return the Leader's calls.

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老墨, 请教一下, ringwood north在不在Ringwood Secondary College的校区内啊?

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谢谢玛丽宝....可是, 图看不太清楚, 几个框, 哪个是啊? 汗一个.....

估计ringwood north不在校区内....

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老墨, 请教一下, ringwood north在不在Ringwood Secondary College的校区内啊?

应该不在。不过以前校区并不严格,本来也不是啥特别突出的学校。
以前,ringwood north的norwood Secondary College和Ringwood Secondary College不分伯仲,这几年Ringwood Secondary College要好些。rirringwood north还有所学校Parkwood Secondary College,这个要小些。
目前情况有些看不清:如果精英学校建在Ringwood Secondary College,则不存在校区问题,而norwood 和Parkwood 必须扩建。如果精英学校不在Ringwood Secondary College,则要么新建(好像没有那么大的空地),要么改建扩建norwood 和Parkwood (交通不是那么方便)。
我倾向于认为精英学校建在Ringwood Secondary College,改建扩建周边的几所中学。

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赫赫,随着华人在RINGWOOD日渐增多,RINGWOOD SC/NORWOOD SC成绩的突飞猛进指日可待。

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谢谢老墨的讲解......

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原帖由 melbourne001 于 2007-8-17 11:20 发表



学校就是学校,房地产就是房地产.  尤其是这种需要择生录取的学校,更应该对那个区域的房产没啥子影响的!


对Glen Waverley校区内的房价会有影响. 东区的好学校多了, 就不一定要挤进去Glen 的校区. Clayton的Monash Uni 附中 虽然要考进去, 但是如果是偏理工的话, 那还不是华(印)人的天下. 孩子想报医科, 工程类的家庭可以买Monash 大学附近的房子, 以后孩子上中学, 大学都方便. 还有, Clayton 是被定位为Technology Precinct. 光Synchrotron 每年会有3000科学家来作研究. 附近人口素质会提高, 房价就会上去.
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got to buy a house in clayton....

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原帖由 villa 于 2007-8-13 18:00 发表

谢谢老墨找的这个资料!++

Clayton这个因为就在Monsh大学,可能偏重数理。(VICTORIA is set to get its first maths, science and technology school)

而outer eastern的那个男女混校的精英中学比较可能在Ringwood ...

请参考老墨帖的最新消息,Rinwood Secondary College将被改建成维州在东区的新精英中学。



原帖由 melbren 于 2007-11-16 13:22 发表

Ringwood Secondary 有很大可能变成精英学校,刚刚查到的本地报纸的报道:
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Select entry for Ringwood Secondary


Brigid O'Connell   25Oct07


The move may mean the school's junior levels will be scrapped in favour of a select entry system, starting at year nine, within three years (Maroondah Leader, July 31).


Parents fear that removing the only public secondary school in the zone will limit options, force children to the end of waiting lists for schools in other zones, and stop children joining siblings at the college
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原帖由 easycome 于 2007-8-17 21:45 发表


对Glen Waverley校区内的房价会有影响. 东区的好学校多了, 就不一定要挤进去Glen 的校区. Clayton的Monash Uni 附中 虽然要考进去, 但是如果是偏理工的话, 那还不是华(印)人的天下. 孩子想报医科, 工程类的家 ...

不太同意您的观点.
第一,正如您所说,华人孩子读书厉害,那glen waverley有我们这么多侄子侄女在那里支持,应该不会差吧?第二,既然没有校区限定,glen waverley到clayton也不远啊,怎么房价会跌呢?
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原帖由 sniper 于 2007-11-17 20:15 发表

不太同意您的观点.
第一,正如您所说,华人孩子读书厉害,那glen waverley有我们这么多侄子侄女在那里支持,应该不会差吧?第二,既然没有校区限定,glen waverley到clayton也不远啊,怎么房价会跌呢?


我没有说GLEN的高中会变差. 但是如果您的孩子考进了CLAYTON的高中, 您还会多花几十万去买GLEN校区的房子吗?

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