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[澳洲资讯] 揭露窃听事件的动机值得怀疑 [复制链接]

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揭露窃听事件的动机值得怀疑
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澳大利亚人报11月20,2013
12:00 AM

印尼间谍窃听事件的真正的丑闻是澳洲广播公司的行为。间谍窃听事件发生在工党政府的2009年。美国叛逃者爱德华·斯诺登数月前把这个信息放置在公共网络上。当现政府与印度尼西亚谈判人口偷渡微妙时候,澳洲广播公司把盘冷饭炒起来,毫无疑问只是为了对现政府和总理造成尽可能大的伤害。如果澳大利亚的国家利益在这个过程中也同样遭到破坏,那么对澳洲广播公司而言这显然是个公平的游戏......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/ ... 58imw-1226763736830

Suspicions about the motive for spying revelations
by: TALKING POINT
From: The Australian November 20, 2013 12:00AM

THE real scandal in the Indonesian spying incident is the behaviour of the ABC. This incident happened in 2009 under a Labor government. US fugitive Edward Snowden placed this in the public domain months ago. Now it has been dragged up just when the government is in delicate negotiations with Indonesia about people-smuggling. There can be little doubt it was timed to cause as much damage to the government and the Prime Minister as possible. If Australia's national interests are also damaged in the process, then evidently that is fair game as far as the ABC is concerned. No doubt any criticism of the ABC will be treated with a shoot-the-messenger response. Well, what was the message? That we sometimes spy on our neighbours as do most nations with the facilities to do so? That is hardly news and certainly does not justify the ABC's action. I am deeply shocked by this. That a national broadcasting agency should seek to destabilise an elected government by releasing sensitive information in this way suggests a deep malaise. John Reid, Cygnet, Tas

THERE is a deeper question to be asked about the classified documents that Edward Snowden provided to the ABC and The Guardian. When did Snowden release these documents? Last week? Why are these spying accusations against Australia being released now? Is it to do maximum damage to the Abbott Coalition government, rather than the Labor government when it was still in office? The information should have been released immediately by the ABC and The Guardian to avoid accusations of playing politics. Can we now expect a drip-feed of damaging accusations every few months?Ailsa Lennox, Hawthorne, Qld

THE fact that Indonesia has recalled its ambassador because of Australia monitoring the mobile phone of Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and others is a very serious matter. It is not just an unfriendly act, it is an embarrassment. International diplomacy is an art form if executed with intelligence. It needs an ethical value base and includes connections in which trust and respect are important components. Everyone is aware of the importance of intelligence organisations gathering information to safeguard the security of nations. However, judging from recent revelations of the extent of information gathering in the US, one wonders whether we have overstepped the mark.Frederika Westerman, Caloundra, Qld

AS the Indonesian spying drama unfolds, no doubt knives are being sharpened to fillet Tony Abbott's handling of the issue. How easy would it be for Abbott to apologise profusely to the Indonesian government for the outrageous acts of the previous government? So far, Abbott has refrained from politicising the incident. Does anyone imagine that if this incident had occurred on Abbott's watch, Labor and the Greens would be calling for heads to roll?Peter O'Brien, Catalina, NSW

ABOUT 40 years ago, as an employee of the federal government, I passed through Bali in Indonesia. At that time, the first five-star hotel had just opened and we were to stay there overnight. We were briefed by our intelligence staff that every room in the hotel was bugged and that we should take care in what we said. It was an ideal place to gather intelligence since it was the only world-class hotel in the area, one that attracted visiting VIPs from all over the world. At the time no one was upset because all countries gathered intelligence from all other countries then - and today. We should realise that Indonesia has always spied on others, and known that others were spying on them. So its hysteria during the past few days should be considered a hypocritical sham only to be believed by the uninformed.N. Ford, Kambah, ACT

ELECTRONIC eavesdropping and code breaking was an integral part of the war in the Pacific which directly involved the islands that now make up Indonesia. It has also been a feature of international relations during the 20th and 21st centuries. It is inconceivable that the Indonesians were ignorant of the use of electronic eavesdropping and code breaking of the communications between friends, neighbours and enemies. One can only speculate at the true motives behind Indonesia's over-reaction to the spying "revelations". However, it seems likely that the revelations are being exploited by the Indonesian government to divert public attention from domestic politics, and to justify Indonesian inaction on stopping boatpeople.Paul Tooker, Bald Knob, Qld

YOU can bet Indonesia has maintained a formidable intelligence capability at home and overseas. It defies logic that Indonesia does not spy on its nearest neighbours. Indonesia is entitled to be miffed, but people-smugglers have operated with apparent immunity from detection by Indonesian authorities. Listening in to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and his wife is probably a step too far, but one can only wonder about the reasons it was thought necessary.Allen Arthur, Middleton, SA

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斤斤计较劳神 气势汹汹心虚
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无间道 ?

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ABC和SBS都是左倾的媒体,同情难民的。

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shame on you ABC
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猫哭耗子假慈悲。 大部分媒体在竞选时候被控制一边倒骂工党,跟这一出爆料监听50步笑百步。

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墙裂要求政府把这个吃里扒外的ABC卖给 News Limited, 和澳大利亚人报接成姊妹报
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这几天新闻老讲  

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澳洲只要党报,电视台也卖给老莫,天下太平,澳洲歌舞声平,多好

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既然很早以前就公布于众了,还怕人再说一遍么

难道说印尼政府只收听ABC广播吗,HOHO

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把所有不听默多克话的媒体都卖给默多克,这样阿宝就耳根清静了。

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新闻自由没错, 但如果把党派利益摆到国家利益之上就太短视了.
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转贴此新闻的人的动机值得怀疑。。。

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回复此帖子的人(包括我自己)的动机值得怀疑。。。

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看这帖的居心不良

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说这话的心怀鬼胎。

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既然斯诺登数月前把这个信息放置在公共网络上,澳洲那么多世界级的媒体,竟然没一报道,可见选择性很明显,新闻集团连警察都可以收买挖料,却对如此爆炸性新闻视而不见。
ABC不报道印尼就不知道吗?
好便是了,了便是好。
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吃裡扒外搞甚麼阿

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ABC市政府的吧

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ABC以实际行动证明了自己不是党报,不受宣传部的指挥

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老新闻啊!看来印尼政府像猴子一样,老新闻都能逗它

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博闻 发表于 2013-11-20 15:45
把所有不听默多克话的媒体都卖给默多克,这样阿宝就耳根清静了。

Well said, If ABC is also controlled by uncle M, Australia's freedom of speach is doomed.
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hz88 发表于 2013-11-20 19:13
Well said, If ABC is also controlled by uncle M, Australia's freedom of speach is doomed.

你这让SMH情何以堪,人家SMH那才是媒体的标杆,ABC现在垃圾的不行。
ABC应该1块钱卖给SMH,合起来的实力才能跟news实力拉近。
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d'oh 发表于 2013-11-20 15:54
新闻自由没错, 但如果把党派利益摆到国家利益之上就太短视了.

是的,你说的没错,党派利益,就好比老默控制下的媒体对工党的倒骂, TONY 要求媒体 不要公布船民信息,这些都是党派利益。

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党争哦

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难道印尼只听澳洲广播公司的报道吗

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这很正常 , 就像老陆跑去美国喊冤一样。。。。。。。。。
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sweetpotato 发表于 2013-11-20 18:04
既然斯诺登数月前把这个信息放置在公共网络上,澳洲那么多世界级的媒体,竟然没一报道,可见选择性很明显, ...

应该是最近暴露的。斯诺登如果一次把所有机密都泄露了,他就没戏唱了。
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刘关张 发表于 2013-11-20 20:01
是的,你说的没错,党派利益,就好比老默控制下的媒体对工党的倒骂, TONY 要求媒体 不要公布船民信息, ...

这次应该是斯诺登暴露的。与澳洲党派斗争无关。当然各报报道可能有偏向。

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刘关张 发表于 2013-11-20 20:01
是的,你说的没错,党派利益,就好比老默控制下的媒体对工党的倒骂, TONY 要求媒体 不要公布船民信息, ...

新闻集团是商业公司, 只对股东负责, 只要不伤害股东利益, 它可以有任何倾向. SMH 不也是左倾吗? 也没人抱怨SMH 骂自由党吧?

ABC就不同了, 是国家全拨款, 拿的是纳税人的钱, 它的股东就是国家人民. ABC是左派媒体, 没关系, 但如果它拿着国家人民的钱, 却把自己的党派利益凌驾于国家人民利益之上, 那就不对了.
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d'oh 发表于 2013-11-21 08:37
新闻集团是商业公司, 只对股东负责, 只要不伤害股东利益, 它可以有任何倾向. SMH 不也是左倾吗? 也没人抱 ...

商业公司也是有党派偏向的。

国家电视台也是有责任指出政府做的不对的地方。ABC 要像天朝的中央电视台,光说好不说差?

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